Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Seamanship, Navigation & Boat Handling > Navigation
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 15-08-2015, 02:06   #31
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,953
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Looking at the tides around then, I think we will make for Flinders to pick up a mooring and catch up on sleep. As we will come into Flinders of an evening. Then the next day we will pop around and be ready for about a 1pm flood.
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-08-2015, 02:57   #32
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Melbourne
Boat: Compass 28
Posts: 431
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Flinders can be horribly rolly as the waves refract around the point - I've had a couple of epic bad sleeps there! Depending on wind direction it might be worth putting out a stern anchor to keep you into the waves. Of course, you'll have to watch out for other boats' swing room.

Cheers, Graeme
lockie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-08-2015, 03:02   #33
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,953
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Quote:
Originally Posted by lockie View Post
Flinders can be horribly rolly as the waves refract around the point - I've had a couple of epic bad sleeps there! Depending on wind direction it might be worth putting out a stern anchor to keep you into the waves. Of course, you'll have to watch out for other boats' swing room.

Cheers, Graeme
the last time I popped into Flinders (and then up into Hastings) we had a dream run. There were a few empty moorings to tie up to. My girls a ketch too so the mizzen if needed will help.
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-08-2015, 18:05   #34
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Melbourne
Boat: Compass 28
Posts: 431
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

You could consider Cleeland Bight (San Remo) for a better chance at a smooth sleep.

Cheers, Graeme
lockie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-08-2015, 21:24   #35
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,953
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Quote:
Originally Posted by lockie View Post
You could consider Cleeland Bight (San Remo) for a better chance at a smooth sleep.

Cheers, Graeme
Thanks Graeme, I did consider a route to San Remo, but I decided it was too far from the heads given we won't be going through the heads till sometime in the afternoon.

Once I'm through I'll anchor or pick up a mooring somewhere for the night before heading off to Melbourne so I don't have to navigate a busy and unfamiliar area in the dark.
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-08-2015, 03:09   #36
Registered User
 
dirkdig's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong,Australia
Boat: Lagoon 440 Pathfinder
Posts: 845
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

There are free public moorings at Sorrento and in the Queenscliff bight just past the marina.
Plenty of tide at both spots. Queenscliff has 2 that are very sheltered.


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
dirkdig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-08-2015, 03:13   #37
Registered User
 
dirkdig's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong,Australia
Boat: Lagoon 440 Pathfinder
Posts: 845
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/__data/ass...n-Moorings.pdf




Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
dirkdig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-08-2015, 03:31   #38
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,953
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Quote:
Originally Posted by dirkdig View Post
http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/__data/ass...n-Moorings.pdf




Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
Queenscliff looks ideal. When you say just past the marina, do you mean just past on the way 'in' North of the Marina. The pdf is good but they made the stamp too big.
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-08-2015, 03:24   #39
Registered User
 
dirkdig's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong,Australia
Boat: Lagoon 440 Pathfinder
Posts: 845
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Right where i dropped the pin there are 2.
Be prepared to grab the rope form the mooring which is quite thick as the tide can really run.
Great spot though.Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByCruisers Sailing Forum1439807047.422981.jpg
Views:	192
Size:	139.8 KB
ID:	107435


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
dirkdig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-08-2015, 04:31   #40
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,953
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Quote:
Originally Posted by dirkdig View Post
Right where i dropped the pin there are 2.
Be prepared to grab the rope form the mooring which is quite thick as the tide can really run.
Great spot though.Attachment 107435


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
I'm glad I asked where, because they are no where near where I was thinking. Lol.

Weather is looking good for a next Sunday or Monday departure from here.
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-08-2015, 05:19   #41
Registered User
 
dirkdig's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong,Australia
Boat: Lagoon 440 Pathfinder
Posts: 845
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

No worries,have a great trip.


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
dirkdig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-08-2015, 05:49   #42
Registered User
 
hoppy's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,844
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Another thing to watch out for when going through the Rip

This was posted today on the Searoads ferries FB page. It seems they are having a few sighting at the moment

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByCruisers Sailing Forum1439815649.563547.jpg
Views:	164
Size:	99.8 KB
ID:	107443


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
S/Y Jessabbé https://www.jessabbe.com/
hoppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-08-2015, 12:50   #43
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Back in Montt.
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 8,187
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

If the weather is good ..ie wind out of NNW round to South... and you have enough day light you can run up into the Coles Channel and anchor south of St Leonards and west of the Coles Channel leads in good holding and flat water. Avoid in N through E though.
Years since I stopped there but St Leonards was always a favourite short stay for me if going to or from Geelong to the Rip.
__________________
A little bit about Chile can be found here https://www.docdroid.net/bO63FbL/202...anchorages-pdf
El Pinguino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-08-2015, 13:03   #44
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Back in Montt.
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 8,187
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

A piccie to help.... the blue line gives a rough idea of where I mean. ( ignore the blue 'dot'.)
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Untitled.jpg
Views:	168
Size:	64.1 KB
ID:	107479  
__________________
A little bit about Chile can be found here https://www.docdroid.net/bO63FbL/202...anchorages-pdf
El Pinguino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-08-2015, 17:13   #45
Registered User
 
Andrew G's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Van deStadt 34
Posts: 80
Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Sorry I've been missing in action (on a boat) for a while. Some points:
- yes Lonsdale Light is no longer staffed (Lonsdale VTS is now in Melbourne)
- I disagree with El P about his aversion to the Eastern route, I'm not aware of any deaths off cruising yachts on the Eastern route (plenty of surfers, army commandos and commercial ship-wrecks 50+ years ago, plus a pilot vessel inside the heads - not on the eastern leads). The pilot boats use the fishermans' channel largely because their base is west of the heads (Queenscliff marina) and it leads them strait to the pilot boarding area. They are shoal draft and have power that we don't. The western side has more kelp to wrap around the prop. The rough water is in between the east and west routes - both avoid the worst of it.
- there can be quite rough water several miles south of the heads, the eastern route avoids this whereas you may have to travel 3 or more miles SW of the heads to avoid it before turning to the east (not a problem if heading west)
- I'm saying that either route is OK IN THE RIGHT CONDITIONS of tide and wind - both can be very bad if not
- if I were coming or going west of the heads I would use the Four Fingers West, if the east I'd use the eastern leads
- the two moorings in Queenscliff may be too shallow for a deep keeler, the marina is OK but not cheap and the Queenscliff Crusing Yacht Club (50m NE of the moorings has a timber whaling in total shelter)
- there are courtesy moorings just east of the Sorrento pier
- Blairgowrie further to the east has a marina (undergoing expansion at present)
- yes there is some tidal effect to the east of the heads (several miles to sea too) and you can use that to good advantage if you time your entry/exit to be at the right slack water
- re Flinders it really can be rolly (or calm), another option in the right conditions may be Cowes (courtesy moorings just west of the pier or better holding to its east). McHafie Reef can cut up really rough on a full ebb tide, particularly into a S-SW sea.
Have a good trip,
Andrew
Andrew G is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
sail, sailing


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Maxsea TZ - Rip-Off Britain ? John Duckworth Navigation 2 14-07-2010 11:19
Marinas Rip Off Electrical / Water Meters - How Do I Check? MarkJ Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 14 04-10-2009 18:58
The Voyage, Philip Caputo Casco Bay The Library 1 23-11-2008 22:24

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 14:55.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.