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18-02-2014, 18:42
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cruiser
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Location: Seattle
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Point one, where are the "front" hollers in Tennessee? Point two, do they sail in either the front hollers or the back hollers of Tennessee? Point three, until I wrote this post, I didn't realize there are three full sets of double letters in "Tennessee".
--Sent from the front hollers of Seattle, where we have a law limiting our double letters. Otherwise, things would get completely out of hand.
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18-02-2014, 19:01
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#47
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Obsfucator, Second Class
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Front hollers are the ones an outsider can sometimes visit. People who wonder into back hollers are seldom heard from again.
-dan
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18-02-2014, 20:20
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#48
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cruiser
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Location: Seattle
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
That must be because they find a babe, fall in love, get married and go native, right?
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18-02-2014, 20:29
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#49
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Obsfucator, Second Class
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Uh, ah.., why, Yes. Exactly.
Sometimes accompanied by noises sounding somewhat, but not quite exactly, like the squealing of a pig. Uh, ignore that. Don't know why I said that...
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19-02-2014, 00:25
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khagan1227
Wife hated math in school, we use the clock...
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Not so easy with a digital watch.
It depends on the skill level and awareness of the other person. If they are less skilled it's the clock system as referenced to the bow. If they are skilled it's by points as is my preference. The object is to be relatable to the receiver.
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19-02-2014, 05:39
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#51
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Moderator
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astrid
Nor watched any old classic movies. Each point of the compass had a name:
North
North by East
North North East
North East by North,
North East
North East by East
East North East
East by North
East, etc.
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19-02-2014, 09:27
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Registered User
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by dacust
Uh, ah.., why, Yes. Exactly.
Sometimes accompanied by noises sounding somewhat, but not quite exactly, like the squealing of a pig. Uh, ignore that. Don't know why I said that...
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19-02-2014, 20:27
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astrid
Nor watched any old classic movies. Each point of the compass had a name:
North
North by East
North North East
North East by North,
North East
North East by East
East North East
East by North
East, etc.
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And that is why sidelights are visible 2 points abaft the beam.
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24-02-2014, 17:52
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#54
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Registered User
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
lets use the 32 cardinal points and confuse everyone
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24-02-2014, 18:07
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: costa rica
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
I am very impressed with all you that know the cardinal points but that doesn't make things any easier for this guy you are just making things more confusing I have over 20 years as a merchant marine officer for Maersk lines and our lookouts need to know the cardinal system but most all of the time we use the following it makes life easier
the point is to get someone looking in the right direction
dead ahead
broad to starboard (45 degrees to stbd)
starboard beam
starboard quarter (45 degrees abaft the beam)
dead astern
port quarter
port beam
broad to port
these are a little more nautical than the clock system but if the clock system works for your crew then by all means use it don't confuse someone with the 32 cardinal just to impress them
USCG Master Mariner any gross tonnage any ocean
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24-02-2014, 18:47
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Registered User
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
I wish there was a way to know if the person writing some of this text book stuff is an armchair sailor or a cruiser taking the piss. At a recent Cruisers gathering the consensus was the clock system is best. A couple of would be racers tried to points off the beam but where beaten down by their wives. Every one that I sail with knows and uses the clock. Cruisers keep things simple.
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24-02-2014, 21:15
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#57
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cruiser
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Location: Seattle
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
I don't think I'm impressed, because as a matter of absolute fact, there are not 32 cardinal points.
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25-02-2014, 01:10
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Exactly
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25-02-2014, 01:19
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Senior Cruiser
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammer Six
I don't think I'm impressed, because as a matter of absolute fact, there are not 32 cardinal points.
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Quite right! There are 32 compass points including the four cardinal points(N,E,S,W) and the four ordinal (or inter-cardinal) points which together make up the eight "principal winds".
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25-02-2014, 02:48
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#60
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Registered User
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Location: Up Qld Coast, near Yeppoon.
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Re: Relative Bearing - informal poll
I prefer the point system but it does make more sense when the bridge is big, usually relative to bow as we are often talking about objects that are potentially dangerous. On a yacht I'd explain it to all as with other directions like I would explain it, just like I explain other terms like quarter, beam, inboard, bulkhead, stringer etc. A point is roughly 4 fingers. Wind is from a cardinal point, Current is set. Captains drinks first night out. Using the language of our predecessors is concise and part of the charm.
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