Navionics shows depth but AIS data not working, Yacht devices WIFI-NMEA and matsutec

[CaptainRivet]

HI all
I have Navionics running on an IPAD 12.9. Pro 2020 with Yacht Devices NMEA-to-Wifi dongle and a Matsutec AIS 205 (send&receive).
I get the depth data from the NMEA displayed in Navionics on the Ipad but AIS data doesn't work.
If I use the instrument display in an app and Yacht device ethernet all the data from NMEA shows up.
The Matsutec is an 0183NMEA device and I also have the raymarine adapter from seatalk 1 to NG installed.

the raymarine MFD e7 needs that and shows all data correctly incl. the AIS, so it must be on the network.

how can I get the AIS in Navionics to work?

[CaptainRivet]

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Help would be appreciated.

[wholybee]

I did nothing special for Navionics on Android with the YDWG. Are you connecting to a TCP or UDP server on the gateway? I think UDP is preferred but it shouldn't matter.

In Navionics there is a screen (sorry I don't remember where) where it will tell you if AIS is connected and working, vs depth and speed being connected and working. Is it showing that AIS is disconnected while depth and speed work?

One very annoying thing with AIS on Navionics is that the AIS icons only appear when you are zoomed in. If the ships aren't near you and you zoom out for an overview, they all disappear. If you don't know where to zoom into, It can look like there is nothing there. It actually makes the AIS feature on Navionics dangerous IMHO.

[shimari]

Which Yacht devices wifi gateway are you using: YDWG-02 or YDWN-02?

Presuming it's the YDWG-02, you might want to check if the seatalk1 to SeatalkNG converter supports AIS PGN's.

[zurk]

random guess but nmea 0183 is probably going direct to the raymarine. you need to set the raymarine to repeat/retransmit the ais data on the nmea 2000 bus.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by zurk

random guess but nmea 0183 is probably going direct to the raymarine. you need to set the raymarine to repeat/retransmit the ais data on the nmea 2000 bus.

No the OP converts it to Seatalkng ie nmea2000 and his mfd is showing it.

How does the navionics app expect the AIS data to be presented can it handle the PGN directly or does it need it presented in nmea0183 format

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by shimari

Which Yacht devices wifi gateway are you using: YDWG-02 or YDWN-02?

Presuming it's the YDWG-02, you might want to check if the seatalk1 to SeatalkNG converter supports AIS PGN's.

He’s not using a Seatalk1 converter for it I hope as Seatalk is not compatible with nmea0183 devices.

Here’s a piece from the manual of the YDWG

“

With the factory settings, Gateway has the 1st server enabled and pre-configured use TCP port 1456 and the NMEA 0183 data protocol. To connect your application to the Gateway with factory settings:
• connect your laptop or mobile device to YDWG network;
• set the IP address 192.168.4.1 in the application settings;
• specify the TCP protocol and port 1456 in the application settings.
To use the gateway with a Navionics Boating App, no settings are required in the app, but some changes are required in the Gateway configuration:
• configure one of the Gateway servers to use UDP port 2000 and NMEA 0183 data protocol;
• connect your smartphone or tablet to the Gateway’s Wi-Fi network.
Some versions of Nobeltec MaxSea and TimeZero ignore sentences with «--» talker ID (used by default in previous firmware versions) and you need to change it to something else, for example, to «YD» (see X.2).
The settings on the «NMEA Settings» page are designed to control an autopilot by NMEA 0183 protocol and tune NMEA 0183 output settings, see chapter X. for details.”

[wholybee]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

No the OP converts it to Seatalkng ie nmea2000 and his mfd is showing it.

How does the navionics app expect the AIS data to be presented can it handle the PGN directly or does it need it presented in nmea0183 format

Navionics expects NMEA0183. The YDWG does that conversion without any configuration necessary. I have a YDWG and it is plug-in-play with Navionics and AIS. No configuration on the YD side is needed at all. And if he is getting depth, then that connection is working.

I would be interested in more detail of exactly how his NMEA/STNG network is connected/wired. My guess is that the AIS data isn't getting to the YDWG. The YDWG has some data collection modes and some software for looking at the NMEA2000 raw data, but that might be beyond the OPs ability.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by CaptainRivet

HI all
I have Navionics running on an IPAD 12.9. Pro 2020 with Yacht Devices NMEA-to-Wifi dongle and a Matsutec AIS 205 (send&receive).
I get the depth data from the NMEA displayed in Navionics on the Ipad but AIS data doesn't work.
If I use the instrument display in an app and Yacht device ethernet all the data from NMEA shows up.
The Matsutec is an 0183NMEA device and I also have the raymarine adapter from seatalk 1 to NG installed.

the raymarine MFD e7 needs that and shows all data correctly incl. the AIS, so it must be on the network.

how can I get the AIS in Navionics to work?

How are you doing the AIS nmea conversion , if this is being done by the e7 ray units will NOT rebroadcast the AIS data onto NMEA2000

You need to do the conversion to nmea 2000 in a dedicated converter product eg a YachtDevices YDNG-03 R

Usually it’s a bad idea to conversion in the MFDs