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10-06-2013, 10:13
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#301
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
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Originally Posted by Boatguy30
While there is not a great deal of info on the vessel, it seems safe to assume it was poorly maintained and probably poorly built.
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That may well be true, but I have seen nothing to substantiate it (just OP's presumptions).
IMO, still too early to tell as route, destination and even date of departure not known (what is "known" seems to be guesses)......therefore could still be happily on passage and / or simply have had "normal" problems (mechanical / adverse weather) that will delay them.
Of course could also have already gone or be going glug. But the only reason for concern of that is being "overdue" - and given no one seems to know for sure when their due date window is then that concern not based on any hard evidence.
Waiting a bitch for the friends / family - but that is just how it is.
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10-06-2013, 10:19
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#302
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 138
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
It was said a crewman was waiting to be picked up. But sent home. Who sent him home? and why? And what date did he have to be picked up? And if this isn't known? why not?
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10-06-2013, 10:39
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#303
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cruiser
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Breckenridge
Boat: 1987 Tayana 37
Posts: 106
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
Here is my latest post on LD. Can anyone identify the yacht?
Sailing Savoir Faire: Is This The Lady Domina?
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10-06-2013, 10:49
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#304
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cruiser
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Breckenridge
Boat: 1987 Tayana 37
Posts: 106
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
Going LIVE on air, 1150 am radio, Denver, you can listen by feed at Un Dia Sin Fronteras ŧ Immigration Reform, Dream Act, Human Rights, Hungry Children push the "on air" button, it takes a few seconds to connect up. We are live at 12 noon today MOUNTAIN STANDARD TIME. Our time at time of this posting is 10:48, so about 1 hour and 15 minutes. Will talk briefly about Lady Domina but probably not our market. Still, every word counts!
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10-06-2013, 10:53
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#305
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 138
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
Those pictures are from 2011
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10-06-2013, 11:21
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#307
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cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
Boat: Hunter 31'
Posts: 5,731
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
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Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
That may well be true, but I have seen nothing to substantiate it (just OP's presumptions).
IMO, still too early to tell as route, destination and even date of departure not known (what is "known" seems to be guesses)......therefore could still be happily on passage and / or simply have had "normal" problems (mechanical / adverse weather) that will delay them.
Of course could also have already gone or be going glug. But the only reason for concern of that is being "overdue" - and given no one seems to know for sure when their due date window is then that concern not based on any hard evidence.
Waiting a bitch for the friends / family - but that is just how it is.
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I can understand that opinion, because I think the OP said the owner had only one sail. That's an awfully big boat to have only one sail.
IF that were true, and they ran out of fuel, they would have a hard time staying on course for their destination. If that report of one sail was true, they could be significantly off course.
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10-06-2013, 13:07
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#308
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
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Originally Posted by Rakuflames
I can understand that opinion, because I think the OP said the owner had only one sail. That's an awfully big boat to have only one sail.
IF that were true, and they ran out of fuel, they would have a hard time staying on course for their destination. If that report of one sail was true, they could be significantly off course.
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But as far as I can tell (or remember!) he didn't know that for a fact. Indeed, did not know many things for a "fact"..........
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10-06-2013, 13:39
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#309
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,841
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
While I have followed this thread with interest I've not posted, not much to add.
But...the thought crosses my mind that much could be done to reduce the degree of speculation, particularly with respect to the crew.
While it is not unknown for "experienced" sailors to take on a crossing in a poorly prepped boat (witness recent abandonment of boat with 5 old guys near Bermuda) such an endeavor is unusual.
I find it hard to believe that a group of experienced folks would set off in such a rag tag vessel as has been described. I would not.
So, what was the make up of the crew? I think there were 5. Did they have any experience, or were they a group of holiday makers following the captain?
While in the USCG, On two occasions we were dispatched on searches by frantic wives were the capt was a gentleman in his mid fifties, while the crew were two ladies in their early twenties. They were not easily found.
So....what was the makeup of the crew? Old salts? Newbies? Couples?
No disrespect, but as folks are asking for help, this is relevant info.
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10-06-2013, 13:39
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#310
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern British Columbia, part of the time in Prince Rupert and part of the time on Moresby Island.
Boat: 50-ft steel Ketch
Posts: 1,884
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
Actually from a couple of pictures of her, looks like she had a staysail and a jib rigged forward.
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10-06-2013, 14:43
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#311
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Ubatuba,SP,Brazil (Ex Norway)
Boat: (Ex) Alu. 60' yacht-"Eight Bells"
Posts: 2,731
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
la vida nueva..
Strangely enough,the latest Google Earth imagery of Marigot Bay is dated 10 June 2013. Normally it is a year or more behind time. However,the last Google Earth update was in 2011 and it is impossible to view 31 March or any other date in-between. Apart from that,the hull shape is far too fine compared to LDīs massive appearance.
Yes,LD had a staysail plus a jib.
Tore
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10-06-2013, 14:50
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#312
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Ubatuba,SP,Brazil (Ex Norway)
Boat: (Ex) Alu. 60' yacht-"Eight Bells"
Posts: 2,731
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
tdominic 97...
It was said at first that a friend from Denmark would be joining them in the Azores.
This was later denied by the person himself,saying nothing was arranged,and he went there JUST to see his friends. He went by the generally known estimate of a 14 day passage but after a few days delay he flew home. Personally,I do not believe that story. Nobody flies almost 2000 nm to wave to his friends as they pass.
Tore
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10-06-2013, 15:20
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#313
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Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sxm , Spain
Boat: CSY 44 Tall rig Sold!
Posts: 4,367
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
It did cross my mind they might be gunkin' in the Bahamas, but why no word?
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This come to my mind to, good point!!
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10-06-2013, 15:21
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#314
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern British Columbia, part of the time in Prince Rupert and part of the time on Moresby Island.
Boat: 50-ft steel Ketch
Posts: 1,884
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
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It was said at first that a friend from Denmark would be joining them in the Azores.
This was later denied by the person himself,saying nothing was arranged,and he went there JUST to see his friends. He went by the generally known estimate of a 14 day passage but after a few days delay he flew home. Personally,I do not believe that story. Nobody flies almost 2000 nm to wave to his friends as they pass.
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That would be rather odd in the extreme, which makes me wonder if they were actually planning on the Azores at all and not heading directly for UK or Europe by a more northerly route where they would have wind and current in their favor. Looks like they could ship 2000 gal of fuel--any idea what their practical range would be motor sailing?
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10-06-2013, 16:16
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#315
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 15
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Re: Missing 75īs.y. Lady Domina
Katie, in her last posts on FB said on March 28th; "Final few days in the Caribbean. Making the most of it before a 3 week bumpy journey across the Atlantic." and then on March 31st; "Hopefully be in the AZORES in 3 weeks". This tends to make me think that they were heading for the Azores ... not the Bahamas, Puerto Rico or anywhere else. Yes, they were eventually heading to Norway and Katie was excited about that. As a side issue, they might not have been able to land in Puerto Rico if they did not have American Visas. However, surely one of the crew would have had a cell phone and could have contacted home if they were near any land. I'm still hopeful that they're out there, and just floating in the currents.
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