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20-05-2013, 14:51
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#196
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
By the way, this update from May 15th related to the French search:
NORTH ATLANTIC.
1. DISTRESS SIGNAL RECEIVED ON 406 MHZ FROM 10.9 METER S/V GRAIN DE SOLEIL, GREEN HULL, THREE PERSONS ON BOARD, IN 34° 06.50'N 039° 15.00'W AT 26 APR 2013 0012 UTC.
SATELLITE IMAGE REPORTS VESSEL IN 33° 37.48'N 039° 17.06'W ON 15 MAY.
REPORTS TO RCC NORFOLK, PHONE: 757 398 6390,
FAX: 757 398 6390, E-MAIL: D05-SMB-D5CC@USCG.MIL
OR MRCC DELGADA, PHONE: 35 129 628 1777,
FAX: 35 129 620 5239.
19 MAY 2013 2010Z
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20-05-2013, 15:21
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#197
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
Maybe someone will send a craft to check out the find. WX is good over the area now. The SAR parties may be able to locate the boat.
THX
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20-05-2013, 15:53
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#198
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Location: medusa NY
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
Quote:
Originally Posted by estarzinger
By the way, this update from May 15th related to the French search:
NORTH ATLANTIC.
1. DISTRESS SIGNAL RECEIVED ON 406 MHZ FROM 10.9 METER S/V GRAIN DE SOLEIL, GREEN HULL, THREE PERSONS ON BOARD, IN 34° 06.50'N 039° 15.00'W AT 26 APR 2013 0012 UTC.
SATELLITE IMAGE REPORTS VESSEL IN 33° 37.48'N 039° 17.06'W ON 15 MAY.
REPORTS TO RCC NORFOLK, PHONE: 757 398 6390,
FAX: 757 398 6390, E-MAIL: D05-SMB-D5CC@USCG.MIL
OR MRCC DELGADA, PHONE: 35 129 628 1777,
FAX: 35 129 620 5239.
19 MAY 2013 2010Z
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So what does a 35' boat have to do with this 75' one?
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20-05-2013, 15:59
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#199
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
One satellite image 19 days later?
Rashly assuming they read the name on the transom, since there's no mention of what boat they saw, this would only mean the debris wasn't from GDS. So might be from LD or might not.
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20-05-2013, 16:18
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#200
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
Debris is the wrong colour for the LD. The GDS though looks to me to be turquois or saxony blue, fairly closely matching the debris, but I would not call it green.
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20-05-2013, 16:46
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#201
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
Yep. Does not look 'green' to me either.
Wondering how they know the boat in the sat image is related. After all, there must be a good number of similar looking boats out there heading for the Azores right now.
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20-05-2013, 19:17
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#202
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Registered User
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Location: Catskill Mountains when not cruising
Boat: 31' homebuilt Michalak-designed Cormorant "Sea Fever"
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
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Originally Posted by scoobert
So what does a 35' boat have to do with this 75' one?
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Grain de Soleil was one of three boats all reported in missing/overdue/in distress around the same time in the same general area. The other two were Lady Domina and Team2choc. There was some hope that finding one would possibly lead somehow to the others, or at least to some hint of what happened.
Team2choc has arrived safely, leaving the mysteries of the other two.
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20-05-2013, 23:15
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#203
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Originally Posted by hellosailor
Sand crab, how do you presume that if a boater NEEDS $5000+ worth of diesel fuel, that they will automatically have naother $700 on hand to buy a satphone?
Twenty years ago satphones didn't exist and EPIRBs were beyond most budgets. But we still bought fuel and went to sea.
So they made a choice, for whatever reason. I know folks who'd simply tell you you're nuts for going offshore and going to sleep on a tiny boat in the middle of the ocean no matter HOW it was equipped. They remember the Morro Castle being sunk, the Titanic, a long legacy of ships and deaths and to go to sea on a tiny sailboat? They'd call you nuts no matter how it was equipped.
It's all relative, isn't it?
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How about 4000 in fuel and 1000 on a decent used mainsail? Seriously, who crosses an ocean on a sailboat with a trashed jib and no main?
Yes, it's about priorities. And if you get the priorities wrong you greatly increase your chances of serious problems. Buying doodads when you should spend it on rig integrity, etc.
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24-05-2013, 15:04
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#204
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
FWIW...another missing vessel, a bit bigger.
No new reports of drifting ghost ship Lyubov Orlova - Nfld. & Labrador - CBC News
Quote:
Four months after an empty Russian cruise ship snapped a tow line and drifted into the North Atlantic off Newfoundland her trail has gone cold.
The Canadian Coast Guard says it has received no reported sightings of the Lyubov Orlova since March 12.
At the time, one of the empty vessel's emergency radio beacons flashed an unconfirmed location almost 1,300 kilometres off Newfoundland. The beacon could have been activated after hitting water or another object.
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24-05-2013, 15:11
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#205
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
The following message was just received on the Norwegian īSorgenfriī blog:
Grain sun Mousette
We have just received an important and URGENT information. On the night of May 19 to 20 at 0:00 UTC a sailboat on the way from the Caribbean to the Azores so on her starboard side flashing white gleam. Their position was then at 36 ° 10N 40 ° 11W. We received this information at 5:00 p.m. UTC. CROSS Gris Nez immediately sent this information to the MRCC Ponta Delgada. From our side, we have tried to identify boats close to the area. Jeu de Mer have been informed but are still 250nm from the area. We seek to contact MINAHOUIT II (approximately 50 nm from the area), LADOR (40 nm from the area). Thanks to the staff and contact us immediately with any news.
Tore
Tore
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28-05-2013, 00:21
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#206
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
I've just returned from the Azores. Delivering a yacht from St Maarten. Where we heard from Norway that the seach for the boat(s) had been called off.
Has a Norwegian flagged boat we did keep a look-out during daylight hours on route, but saw nothing. Sad to say that one of the crew a board 'Lady Domina' was a crew member aboard our boat on the outward bound passage (ARC 12). Stian was aways on his computer and the internet when in 'range'. I therefore feel if they have 'landed' somewhere we would have heard from him. News in todays (29.05) press here in Norway say that the seach maybe re-opened.
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29-05-2013, 09:01
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#208
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
"Strange how a yacht can simply disappear with no one having seen or heard from her."
On the contrary, ships and men have been disappearing at sea even before Noah and the Ark. Sometimes there is debris, sometimes there is just a lost vessel. And not just in the Bermuda Triangle but world over.
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29-05-2013, 11:15
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#209
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
Indeed, all one has to do is visit any number of older churches in harbours and fishing communities (such as New Bedford's Seaman's Bethel) and view the scores of centographs set into the walls to commemorate those lost at sea, not to mention memorials erected in cemeteries and parks. Those who have sailed afar know the sea is a demanding mistress, completely intolerant of mistakes and foolish lapses in judgement.
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'Tis evening on the moorland free,The starlit wave is still: Home is the sailor from the sea, The hunter from the hill.
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03-06-2013, 19:31
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#210
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Re: MISSING 75īs.y. LADY DOMINA
[QUOTE=la vida nueva;1246716]Still no word from the missing sailors, as I understand it. Strange how a yacht can simply disappear with no one having seen or heard from her. I side with the majority opinion, she will show up soon.
Strange? the most common final sentence in any description of pre-war sailing vessels is "...and was never seen again."
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