Mayday calls - where is that exactly?

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

So basically what we need Stu is for everyone out there to keep their VHF on and tuned to 16/67, or scanning and if you hear a Mayday call put a waypoint in your MFD and do a goto on the autopilot and listen for anyone else who might be closer.



Then we need the rescue coordinator to choose the responding vessel or vessels or aircraft.

Correct

1. Listen to ch 16or ch70 DSC if fitted2, if a DSC slyer is fitted wait for he mrcc aler acknowledge If no ack 25minutes. Instigate a DSC mayday relay especially attempt in to reach thd mrcc. Other vessels may have to m participate in this relay

Tne distress vessel should attempt to contact the mrcc at all costs

Upon assumption of control by the mrcc ( by the broadcast of a DSC slert ) of you can be of assistance , contact them and be guided by their advice

Avoid indiscriminately steaming towards a distress aler you may not be the appropriate assets and other assets may have been already tasked , ensure yiu communicate to the mrcc by whatever available communications means and be guided by their orders

On arrival transfer control to the designated on -scene command. They now have legal responsibility to direct the rescue. Don’t play the hero.

[Jim Cate]

^^^^
I really wish that you would proof read and edit things like this, GBN. Perhaps they would make more sense then.

Jim

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

^^^^
I really wish that you would proof read and edit things like this, GBN. Perhaps they would make more sense then.

Jim

What part doesn’t make sense

[Kelkara]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

What part doesn’t make sense

well this bit for a start:

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but there were plenty of other incomprehensible parts of that post.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Kelkara

well this bit for a start:

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but there were plenty of other incomprehensible parts of that post.

I did edit it.

[RaymondR]

Being mindful that we are on VHF with a limited range and that one may be required to become the coordinator oneself if no closer, or more able vessel fails to declare availability.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

Being mindful that we are on VHF with a limited range and that one may be required to become the coordinator oneself if no closer, or more able vessel fails to declare availability.

Again it’s up to the mrcc to decide this eventually and then they willtake into account your equipments ability

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Again it’s up to the mrcc to decide this eventually and then they willtake into account your equipments ability

Since I have a HF and am aware that in Australia the federal authorities monitor the HF emergency and calling frequencies getting contact with an official coordinator is not a problem however many folks do not have these facilities available and may need advice on a procedure to follow in the event that they receive a mayday appeal for assistance and no official, or more able or professional party intercedes.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Again it’s up to the mrcc to decide this eventually and then they willtake into account your equipments ability

Assuming there is a MRCC within communication range.
If I'm half way across the Coral Sea and I hear a Mayday on Ch 16. I'm not going to wait to find out if someone has picked up an EPIRB signal and dispatched an aircaft.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by StuM

Assuming there is a MRCC within communication range.
If I'm half way across the Coral Sea and I hear a Mayday on Ch 16. I'm not going to wait to find out if someone has picked up an EPIRB signal and dispatched an aircaft.

That is what GMDSS expects you to do.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

That is what GMDSS expects you to do.

Got a reference for that? AFAIK, GMDSS does not stipulate actions in the event of a Mayday in any way.

"he Global Maritime Distress and Safety System is the technical, operational and administrative structure for maritime distress and safety communications"

"The GMDSS establishes the radiocommunications equipment that ships are required to carry, how this equipment shall be maintained and how it is used, and provides the context within which governments should establish the appropriate shore-based facilities to support GMDSS communications."

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by StuM

Got a reference for that? AFAIK, GMDSS does not stipulate actions in the event of a Mayday in any way.

"he Global Maritime Distress and Safety System is the technical, operational and administrative structure for maritime distress and safety communications"

"The GMDSS establishes the radiocommunications equipment that ships are required to carry, how this equipment shall be maintained and how it is used, and provides the context within which governments should establish the appropriate shore-based facilities to support GMDSS communications."

You are incorrect read the full text of thd GMDSS treaty it bey much specified what signatory states must implement and how they manage distress it’s why tndcusa had to begin rescue 21.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

You are incorrect read the full text of thd GMDSS treaty it bey much specified what signatory states must implement and how they manage distress it’s why tndcusa had to begin rescue 21.

Usual "real the book it's somewhere in there" response when someone knows not of what they speak .

There is no "GMDSS Treaty". GMDSS was implemented through Resolution A.420(XI) of the IMO Assembly which made amendments to SOLAS. Specifically "SOLAS Chapter IV - Radiocommunications"

To QUote IMO:
"The Chapter incorporates the Global Maritime Distress and Safety System (GMDSS). All passenger ships and all cargo ships of 300 gross tonnage and upwards on international voyages are required to carry equipment designed to improve the chances of rescue following an accident, including satellite emergency position indicating radio beacons (EPIRBs) and search and rescue transponders (SARTs) for the location of the ship or survival craft. Regulations in Chapter IV cover undertakings by contracting governments to provide radiocommunication services as well as ship requirements for carriage of radiocommunications equipment. The Chapter is closely linked to the Radio Regulations of the International Telecommunication Union."

Nothing about actual responding to a distress call by a vessel

[rslifkin]

Originally Posted by StuM

Assuming there is a MRCC within communication range.
If I'm half way across the Coral Sea and I hear a Mayday on Ch 16. I'm not going to wait to find out if someone has picked up an EPIRB signal and dispatched an aircaft.

Agreed. I'd expect to start heading that direction, then based on further comms it would be determined whether I should continue, or if more capable assets will arrive before me and I should return to my planned course. No reason to waste time in case it turns out I'm needed to assist.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by rslifkin

Agreed. I'd expect to start heading that direction, then based on further comms it would be determined whether I should continue, or if more capable assets will arrive before me and I should return to my planned course. No reason to waste time in case it turns out I'm needed to assist.

My instinct exactly.. I have been in a situation where the nearest assets have ignored the request to assist put out by the UKCG, one being as close as 3nm from me.
And don't say he couldn't have had his VHF on as the arrogant twat came strutting down the jetty in Salcombe when I was towed in to inform me "if you can't sail and your engines not working you should not be on a boat".
I had been at sea for 47 days and just been T-boned in a hit and run by a French m/sailor. Flat batteries, jury rigged lowers port side, Genoa ripped up the luff and 17ft hull deck spilt with 3ft vertical split in stbd hull at fwd lower.
So I would change course towards the distress call regardless of GBN's 'Hero' sarcasm..
Hero's are created by others, not the person taking action.