Mac vs. PC

[Tillsbury]

Originally Posted by mike_kelly

This kind of simply wrong information is why the internet is a dubious source of informtaion. NOBODY has used socketed components for decades. All current PCB are wave soldered with SMB components, period. Unless it is a socket made for adding more memory after the purchase, which is a good thing.


People seem to have to justify their costly Apple purchases or they were given bogus information at the start.

Try not to make things up, and read the post properly. I said that no components being socketed is a good thing, and then you say that no computers have socketed components, but also suggest that socketed ram (and what else? Drives? Batteries?) are a good thing. No, my point was that these components being soldered adds to reliability even if it’s at the cost of theoretical upgradability, which only a tinkerer would do anyway.

You’re correct though, there is plenty of nonsense spouted on the internet.

[mike_kelly]

Originally Posted by Tillsbury

Try not to make things up, and read the post properly. I said that no components being socketed is a good thing, and then you say that no computers have socketed components, but also suggest that socketed ram (and what else? Drives? Batteries?) are a good thing. No, my point was that these components being soldered adds to reliability even if it’s at the cost of theoretical upgradability, which only a tinkerer would do anyway.

You’re correct though, there is plenty of nonsense spouted on the internet.

I see a computer with no upgrade-ability is better? That is why people buy Apple products where you can't even replace the battery. Well you could not put anything in the upgrade sockets then it would be more reliable right and you could still save money.



I clearly misunderstood the OP I thought he wanted information from folks who actually know what they are talking about, like 30 years in the computer industry but I think he really may want just a suggestion of what to buy.


Definitely an Apple product.

[nwdiver]

Originally Posted by mike_kelly

I guarantee this is not normal. I have PC laptops that are 10 years old and still running and still being used from many different manufacturers.

So do I, but I'm not editing HD or 4K video on them, 1) a 10 year old PC couldn't do it and 2) it is very hard on any cpu..........

[nwdiver]

To: the OP either will serve you well....

the new iPadOS, which was just announced MAY let you do what you what on an iPad.........

[mike_kelly]

Originally Posted by nwdiver

So do I, but I'm not editing HD or 4K video on them, 1) a 10 year old PC couldn't do it and 2) it is very hard on any cpu..........

Gee I forgot about all those people who edit 4K video on a boat. Silly me.

[Tillsbury]

Originally Posted by mike_kelly

I see a computer with no upgrade-ability is better? That is why people buy Apple products where you can't even replace the battery. Well you could not put anything in the upgrade sockets then it would be more reliable right and you could still save money.

I clearly misunderstood the OP I thought he wanted information from folks who actually know what they are talking about, like 30 years in the computer industry but I think he really may want just a suggestion of what to buy.

Definitely an Apple product.

The discussion was related to post 17, not the OP. Keep up. Yes, there is a good argument that entirely-soldered entirely solid state computers should be more reliable in a marine environment.

[mike_kelly]

That is a wives tale as far as I am concerned. I lived on my boat for 8 years with multiple computers and never a problem. There is no need to think up solutions to theoretical problems. It is not a good argument at all.

[nwdiver]

Originally Posted by mike_kelly

Gee I forgot about all those people who edit 4K video on a boat. Silly me.

I work on and off the boat with the same system......

[rowingdude]

There is parity now with hardware except for screens.

Apple Macbook Pro Retinas have the best pound for pound screen
PCs are cheap

Apple runs OSx "Mojave", which is based on BSD. The MBP with BSD is a leaner operating system than Windows, so battery life is substantially better.

[weavis]

Why I don't use Apple.

I have designed and sell some specialist medical programs. since 2007.

Originally written for all platforms.

We noticed with every new OS release from MAC, we had to go back and change aspects of the program. In 2011 we approached MAC and asked what gives and why the OS software was breaking a lot of independent designers work on the new updates to the OS.

The answer from MAC was simple. Just give them $25K and the problem would go away.

We elected to keep changing our software and keep it backwards compatible. with the last 2 OS releases from MAC, it has been impossible to do.

Good luck. We no longer support MAC. Our program runs in Microsoft emulators on MAC... That is what people do now.

[ed91e]

Originally Posted by mike_kelly

I guarantee this is not normal. I have PC laptops that are 10 years old and still running and still being used from many different manufacturers.

Is this really true? I mean really.... 10 years on a PC... doing what with that?

[nwdiver]

Originally Posted by ed91e

Is this really true? I mean really.... 10 years on a PC... doing what with that?

Probably cruising the Internet......a phone can do that...

[mike_kelly]

Originally Posted by ed91e

Is this really true? I mean really.... 10 years on a PC... doing what with that?

Really Really. When you have a piece of software that works for you then it is not going to change over time. It will still work for you 10 years later. Constant change is not a given it is a choice.



I use laptops that are 10 years old for satellite tracking, I'm a ham operator and use orbiting satellites for communications. I use 10 year old laptops for drone ground stations, I design and build drones from scratch. I use 10 year old laptops for Astronomy to control my telescope. Still 10 years later.



Once you create a belief system that you associate with your ego it can be difficult to see the truth.

[walkabout08]

Just recently completed an offshore passage from BVI to Newport using Predict Wind Offshore app running off an iPad connecting via Iridium sat phone. Worked very well overall getting daily weather updates. Recommend the Iridium Go unit however if that's an option. Simpler with one less piece of hardware.

[aguenther]

Mac works perfectly for me. Especially a newer ipad is the ideal companion for all nautical apps inc. Predict wind s.o. I use isailor since MacEnc is not longer supported by Garmin, which is a shame, because this program was great and costed much less than any comparable microsoft program.

Have an ipad and enjoy