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Old 17-11-2019, 00:11   #106
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

6.1 NM in the last hour and still tracking towards Bermuda
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... going out to dance with a Hurricane ....
Is this yellow X something that could cause concern?
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2
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Is this yellow X something that could cause concern?
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2
Looks like it's the least of their concern. Most propably won't develope strong enought and going ahead of them from the south. Thou better keep an eye..
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Delos is actually going west to east (not east to west as previously mentioned) they left Florida a short while ago,planning a Bermuda Azores trip. Uma arrived in uk for the Southampton boat show via North Atlantic and put up a short video most days.
Delos right now is going East to West. They left Tenerife a few days ago. I saw them in Marina Rubicon in Lanzarote a couple of weeks ago, and they left a couple of days before me to Tenerife but they went to Los Cristianos where as I went up to Santa Cruz. It was a short stop for them as they had only arrived in the Canaries a month or so ago. Probably something to do with wanting easy flights to Sweden to have a kid.

As for La Vaga, I don't think they are that shorthanded. They have a pro sailor onboard, Riley, and if they need further hands there's that teenage girl that is surely old enough to follow any instructions given, along with her father.
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

somewhat lighter and spotty conditions overnight, but sailing into a bit more pressure now.

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This generally was forecast . . . is why the routing yesterday kept them going east until about noon (utc) today with a turn more to the ENE with the more breeze. However, I think the lighter patch is a bit bigger than forecast - looking at the new routing in a moment.
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The euro model has changed its outlook for that secondary low on the 20-22nd a bit. Having it now moving faster north and folding into the bigger low.GFS/NOAA still does not think it (a secondary low) will happen at all - but does show the frontal band.

Euro - starts as a crush zone against the high on the 20th
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Distinct secondary low, but linking up with bigger low's frontal band 20th mid-night
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And folded into bigger low by 21st late afternoon
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Regarding catamaran sailing performance and/or averages (upwind or close to the wind - with a sea state), here is a post from another thread that many of you may find interesting.

The Spirited 480 is a similar light performance catamaran design.



http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post3016854

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Here's a nice post written about the performance of a Spirited 480.

Upwind Catamaran Sailing onboard ROAM ‚€” Sail Surf ROAM
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Passage making offshore, it’s the sea state you sail too, not the wind speed. In flat water powered up, ROAM does 9-12 knots SOG (speed over ground), hard on the wind.

Offshore forget it, launching out of rollers is no fun for people, the boat or anything in it. When we have up to 15 knots TWS ( true wind speed) it is a dream. With 15 – 20 knots TWS, you can typically only sail at 7-9 knots SOG.

As soon as the TWS approaches 20 knots, anything over 7 knots SOG is very unpleasant due to the sea state. Think a lot of water over the boat, big launches of the windward hull, leeward bow and resultant landings into the next wave. The hull slams on ROAM are relatively OK (relative to catamaran or monohull boats) but still no fun.
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The routing has stayed pretty much identical to yesterdays, and they are right smack on it (the "R" waypoints with the white number boxes are yesterdays routing).

They will have a choice coming up - follow 'optimal' route to turn slightly more north for the faster overall routing but also the slightly more comfortable ride short term . . . or keep on going more east to stay closer to Bermuda. The routing has them making that turn definitively by about 10 hrs from now.

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longer-term, today's routing has them staying further south overall - well below the Azores now - this will bobble around as the forecast high centers shift. (I have also turned down the polars by another 5%)

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(you can again see yesterdays routing with the white waypoint boxes - tracking well above today's route).
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and today's wind profile for the whole route again shows quite a bit of high 20's kts (and possibly near gale) but no storm force currently expected

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This assumes they dodge (are behind) the euro 21st low
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and the wind angles are pretty favorable - basically all VMG deep angles on one tack or the other

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you can see the jybe for the frontal/low on the 20-22th here
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Overall, for the season - it is not looking too bad - still need to keep a very close eye on the 20th-22nd situation, get the best possible update in 8 or so hours and then make a decision about turning more north or keep on east
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I wonder if he still feels the same way after a few days at sea with her


Doesnít matter, you of course publish what people want to hear on YouTube Snapchat whatever, not reality.
Itís a business, an entertainment business after all.
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The routing has stayed....]
What weather routing prog are you using?
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What weather routing prog are you using?
at sea, I personally use ADRENA (what the french pros all use).

but that is overkill for this little tracking effort - so here I am using the freeware QtVlm , which is a very nice little program, especially for free. It gives the same routing as the fancier programs, just has a bit less options and flexibility, but is a fully usable program.

In Adrena, for this exercise, I would put a 35kts 'fence' in (you could also put a sea state fence in, but that data can be a bit sketchy), so it would try to route only with less than 35kts, and if it found a spot where it could not it would give me options to consider. But you can do that manually with QtVlm.

(Full transparency - back in the day I had a tiny sponsorship deal with Adrena - I would use their product and show their screenshots when I did public routing exercises for the Vendee and volvo and they would give me the product for free - I approached them as Adrena was my preference because I wanted to be using the exact same set-up as the skippers at sea . . . but that's all long in the past)

Expedition is also quite good, seems to be used by english speaking racers. I am totally happy to use that if it is the boat's system.
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