Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-07-2016, 18:21   #31
Writing Full-Time Since 2014
 
thinwater's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 9,601
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

I just wanted a fun discussion. Good!

When I'm transient the always assign and end tie (catamaran). I would be annoyed if I couldn't get my dinghy out. With the tides here (no floating docks) I can usually sneak the dinghy under the dock, but not always.
__________________
Gear Testing--Engineering--Sailing
https://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/
thinwater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2016, 00:18   #32
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 6,451
Images: 7
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

Stink boaters get everything arse backwards???
RaymondR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2016, 05:53   #33
Registered User
 
ranger58sb's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
Boat: 58' Sedan Bridge
Posts: 5,430
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RaymondR View Post
Stink boaters get everything arse backwards???

Gratuitous insults? Why?

-Chris
__________________
Chesapeake Bay, USA.
ranger58sb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2016, 06:58   #34
Registered User

Join Date: May 2013
Location: Mystic
Boat: St. Francis 44 mkII
Posts: 361
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

i see time and time again folk trying to adhere to the mantra of "power boats back in".

its an amusing sight, a single engine 30ft sportcruiser (of high windage and weighs nothing) trying to back into a windward dock in 15kts cross wind. One of these many folk is a good friend, and time and time again i tell hi to come bow in.. but neither him nor his wife want to walk the extra 30ft...



the bottom line for me would be..if i had two engines, i would back in, with one engine, bow in...regardless of type of boat.

after all, I can look silly plenty times, but i don't want to advertise it by trying to make the boat do something it really doesn't want to.
Mystic38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2016, 08:42   #35
cat herder, extreme blacksheep

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
Images: 56
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

i made my answer before allowing you naysayers and critics to know i did own power boats and resided on 2 of em. one chris craft commander 38 , one iffirst 18 set in glass, and a cavalier 35 cockpitm potor yacht. both were in transom first. we did that for ease of access as boarding was over and thru transom . the cavalier also offered a lovely midships boarding option , which i had, in the form of mahogany ladder and sliding doors. whoot. that was a helluva coolass liveabord boat. twin 283s--awesome song..my motorhead and practical sides were in full swing. bendix twin autopilot.... dayummmmm
once ye has twin screw down, yer spoiled. i was still manager of pacu when i bought that beauty. lotsa room. comfy. and donot even mention the standard onan 6.5 kw genset....omy awesome comfort. fridge, electric stove..always had power even in storms when no one else did-- loved it.
but it didnt have sails, nor range.

ability to maneuver stinkpots is useful in maneuvering our slower and more cumbersome cruising boats.
zeehag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2016, 12:50   #36
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 6,451
Images: 7
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ranger42c View Post
Gratuitous insults? Why?

-Chris
Vicarious gratification.

Or, the original question is playful and I responded in kind.

Or, it might be that the front end of sail boats are generally more level with the dock and consequently ease of access is about equal whether for in or aft, whereas power boats generally have a raised bow which places the deck higher above the dock than the stern and therefore stern in is more convenient for access.

Or, it might actually be that power boaters do do everything arse backwards?
RaymondR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2016, 13:14   #37
Registered User
 
ranger58sb's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
Boat: 58' Sedan Bridge
Posts: 5,430
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RaymondR View Post
Vicarious gratification.

Personality disorder?

Or, the original question is playful and I responded in kind.

Neither is obvious.
-Chris
__________________
Chesapeake Bay, USA.
ranger58sb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2016, 14:55   #38
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Port Aransas, Texas
Boat: 2019 Seawind 1160 Lite
Posts: 2,126
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

We back into the direction the wind is coming from. Dual motors on our cat are near stern. This provides higher degree of control.

That said, most times we are on end tie or t head, due to slip width limits.
sailjumanji is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2016, 22:15   #39
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 6,451
Images: 7
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

It's the constant diesel fumes, sniffing petrol will destroy your mind even faster, trade the stinker on a raggy?
RaymondR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2016, 20:53   #40
Registered User
 
J Clark H356's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Grand Rivers, KY
Boat: Hunter 2003 356 - Persistence
Posts: 609
Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

Always back in. Have an open stern so on floating docks much easier to come and go. On pile docks -non-floating a little more difficult, but I still back in. I find it very easy to maneuver my Hunter 356 while backing in. I do not have a bow thruster and deep on my prop walk to help me maneuver.


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
J Clark H356 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2016, 09:25   #41
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Central New Jersey USA
Boat: Cape Dory 28 (Sold Nov 2019)
Posts: 236
Re: Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinwater View Post
... I know this is not 100% true, but in my creek it is about 80% ... I back in, principally because my wife and parents (87/90) can't board over the bow. I like it too, since it makes loading stuff easier ...
I have a small cruising sailboat now moored in a slip in NJ. It happens that the slip is somewhat exposed in NE winds, and to reduce problems and also allow some shelter under the dodger in such conditions, it's best to back into the slip. Frankly this is not simple, but I somehow cope.

Detail-wise, the boat is LH prop single screw, and I have a routine that works well enough. However in severe conditions when returning, I will simply go bow in until such time that reversing the arrangement is easier.

I have been in many spots where the social thing for regulars is to back the power boat in, set up to enjoy the neighbors, etc. In many cases and depending on the slip arrangement, I as a visitor also back in. This sometimes gives the dock personnel heartburn since they believe that sailing boats cannot do this without causing havoc. Not so, although practice doing this is quite useful.

Obviously I like this question a bit (smile).
__________________
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
kerrydeare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-07-2016, 17:10   #42
Registered User
 
J Clark H356's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Grand Rivers, KY
Boat: Hunter 2003 356 - Persistence
Posts: 609
Why do power boats back in and sailboats pull in?

I always back into my slip at my homeport and also Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByCruisers Sailing Forum1469923566.283163.jpg
Views:	131
Size:	48.6 KB
ID:	128765Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByCruisers Sailing Forum1469923626.053954.jpg
Views:	127
Size:	53.8 KB
ID:	128766Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByCruisers Sailing Forum1469923701.820037.jpg
Views:	131
Size:	52.7 KB
ID:	128767when cruising. On floating docks it makes an easy entry for my sugar scoop stern. It is also easier on pile docks as it is easier for us to enter the side of the cockpit.

The photos are different conditions on a cruise to Florida.



Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
J Clark H356 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
power boat, sail, sailboat

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wondering why more power boats aren't using solar power to recharge house batteries? MV Wanderlust Powered Boats 36 05-07-2016 20:20
Pull Pull Steering Issue MollyJo Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 3 27-04-2015 05:10
Edson Steering Conduit Pull-Pull System Evaluation atoll Product or Service Reviews & Evaluations 20 31-01-2015 09:30
I have heard of people going back and forth from USA to MX and back and no a Passport shorebird2 The Sailor's Confessional 33 02-06-2014 04:29
To Pull or Not to Pull . . . That Is My Question ! BILLYBYEPOLAR General Sailing Forum 4 12-11-2010 14:26

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:29.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.