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Old 08-11-2010, 07:26   #31
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If he dragged at 79th st in New York City, I understand--been there, done that with a good anchor and a 8:1 scope. Forget diving on the anchor there--even if you can hang on in the 3 knot current, the visibility is zero, and you're going to have to get shots for every disease known to mankind.
Having spent my early & college years living on the East river I take offense to that comment... the only disease you'll likely catch is brilliant idea syndrome Just stay clear of the white fish!

But I agree I wouldn't want to dive anywhere in NYC in November and visibility does compund the problem, but I know a few divers in the area that would do it for a reasonable price while cleaning your hull (growth being another problem that adds to drag). My only motivation was to present the options, whether Lorenzo is comfortable with them is his progative.

The last time i anchored there was in 2000 aboard a 750' tanker with a 10:1 scope and we where the only ship in the anchorage NOT to drag anchor... then, as we brought it up, we needed a sawzall to cut the rebar off the chain. Not fun.

The bottom line is the area is infamous for dragging, go with as much scope as you can get (as I said in point #1) but, whether it holds or not, always have a plan B in your back pocket.
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Old 14-11-2010, 10:04   #32
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Paul Allen was in town with his yacht Octopus, so I dropped work on my boat in the yard and rowed out to see him, with the intent of asking for the OPs benefit what kind of rode and anchor he used. Unfortunately, Octopus seems to have TWO helicopters and he was out on the other one, presumably trolling with it to put fish on the table, so I didn't get a chance to find out. However, since he was anchored in 80 feet of water, I guess he has more than 130 feet of scope out...

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Old 14-11-2010, 15:31   #33
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Paul Allen was in town with his yacht Octopus, ...presumably trolling with it to put fish on the table,
Just glad he wasn't on Cruisers Forum trolling threads about anchors and chains. Pulling our chains.

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Always!! More scope!! Especially if you do not have to winch it in by hand!!
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Paul (and Octopus) is always too busy (or sick) to deal with us little mortals.
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