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Old 16-03-2013, 14:21   #16
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Re: What happened to Bruce almighty?

i love my genyoowhine bruce anchor and i want 3 more so i can anchor like an oil rig.
i do not want any knock offs, as they fail.
30 kg, only, as lighter is a dinghy anchor and heavier is overkill....
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Old 16-03-2013, 14:45   #17
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Re: What happened to Bruce almighty?

They could not sell a single Bruce anymore because everybody was buying cheap knock-offs and then complaining about bent shafts or bad holding etc. which other people took as bad performance from original Bruce. I believed it was ultimately the trend to buy the cheapest that killed the original Bruce.
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Re: What happened to Bruce almighty?

Still, you would think they could have sold the trademarked name to a major anchor company, like say Lewmar or Manson, who would then use it like companies have done with the names CQR and Danforth. There are still enough people buying CQRs apparently to justify the expense, even though I would venture to guess there are even more plow-type knock offs than there are Bruce-type knock offs. Apparently Manson thinks there's enough of a market to make a quality copy that Beth and Evans think is pretty good.

Maybe it just comes down to Bruce himself not wanting his name associated with any other anchors.
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Re: What happened to Bruce almighty?

My understanding too. Inferior copies were undercutting the price while undermining the reputation of the genuine.

Why didn't anyone buy the license? Because they didn't need to.
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Re: What happened to Bruce almighty?

When spade,fortress,and Ronca/manson anchors with as little as half the weight started testing at much higher holding with faster resets and much less drag tendancy the Bruce and the plough type anchors had to decline.
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I would not be so fast to blame the Bruce... or too many other anchors in quite a few case's... the amount of times I've seen boats come in and drop 10 + metres of chain on top of their anchor in 3 - 4 metres anchorages... by the time they reverse they've over run and the fun starts... or it snags something and holds... till a wind or tide change... its no wonder there's wraps from time to time..
No good having a good anchor if one does not know how to lay it..
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I would not be so fast to blame the Bruce... or too many other anchors in quite a few case's... the amount of times I've seen boats come in and drop 10 + metres of chain on top of their anchor in 3 - 4 metres anchorages... by the time they reverse they've over run and the fun starts... or it snags something and holds... till a wind or tide change... its no wonder there's wraps from time to time..
No good having a good anchor if one does not know how to lay it..
Yeah... both cases I was referring to were people I knew and the boats had been anchored for over a week. Still.... it's a matter of fitting the tool to the area really, I probably wouldnt hesitate to use a bruce up here in the PNW, but I would be wary after tide or wind shifts. Of course I would be with any anchor!
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Bruce is made of fine material. Never had a issue with it holding. No rust after all these years. Sometimes I use a different anchor and if named storm I use 2 or more. Like the fortress for the chesapeake if its storm time.
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The Bruce was my favorite anchor. All of mine were oversized according to their charts but I just saw it as undersized charts. Couldn't count the number of times anchored in so many years and never had it drag. Contrary to some views I dove on my anchor many times and after a good blow the anchor often was completely buried. The boat we just bought has a Rocna so I guess we'll be trying it out soon.
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Yeah... both cases I was referring to were people I knew and the boats had been anchored for over a week. Still.... it's a matter of fitting the tool to the area really, I probably wouldnt hesitate to use a bruce up here in the PNW, but I would be wary after tide or wind shifts. Of course I would be with any anchor!
But you say the chain was wrapped. Then you say you would use one anyway. Hard to find the case against a Bruce with that argument.
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Re: What happened to Bruce almighty?

I am still waiting for our 33lbs of never used original Bruce to arrive. Hopefully this week.

A slightly undersized copy held us fine on our rtw. We go 50% up in size.

I understand patent expired and copies are made in differing technology.

I noticed some copies do not share the shapes and angles with the original anchor.

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Love my 33 lb Bruce that came with my boat. Only dragged once in seventeen years and that was when I dropped it in grass with a short scope in winds hitting gale force. It held for it held for nearly twenty four hours though. Had a big clump of grass in the claw when I lifted it. Mine has "made in Belgium" stamped on the side. Since my boat was outfitted on the west coast of the U.S. that's a long way to ship an anchor.
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Re: What happened to Bruce almighty?

Thanks fer the great topic there maties!
Good on ya all ! then eh?
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When spade,fortress,and Ronca/manson anchors with as little as half the weight started testing at much higher holding with faster resets and much less drag tendancy the Bruce and the plough type anchors had to decline.
Rocna (not: Ronca), Manson (Supreme), did not exist when Bruce started to decline.

Manson still makes a Bruce copy.

If there was a killer on the road then it was the Delta, maybe

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Rocna (not: Ronca), Manson (Supreme), did not exist when Bruce started to decline.

Manson still makes a Bruce copy.

If there was a killer on the road then it was the Delta, maybe

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