Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 22-11-2018, 00:44   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: The Netherlands
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 430
Posts: 29
What chain? Goiot 312windlass (1990)

Hi guys,

I have been researching which chain i should get for my goiot 312 windlass, to date with no sure answer.

I have a 10mm gypsy

Current chain is too rusty to take mesurements from.

In europe we have two types of chain, DIN 766 and ISO 4565.

The manual of the windlass states: Gipsy accepts any type of calibrated chain (NF EN24565)

I thought i should go with the iso as the iso numbers are the same as stated in the manual (NF EN24565), but then i fit both type of chain in de gypsy, the Din chain fit very tight, the iso loosly.

Im not sure anymore what to go for. Can you guys help?

Attached snips out of manual + pictures of gypsy.
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0019.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	52.5 KB
ID:	181049Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0020.jpg
Views:	175
Size:	117.8 KB
ID:	181050Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0021.jpg
Views:	164
Size:	366.3 KB
ID:	181051Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0022.jpg
Views:	189
Size:	378.5 KB
ID:	181052
Tjurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-11-2018, 01:28   #2
Registered User
 
ErikFinn's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Malaysia, Thailand
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 430
Posts: 860
Re: What chain? Goiot 312windlass (1990)

Hi Tjurd, I thought I knew the answer before I read through your post but discovered that you know you have a 10mm gypsy as denoted by the "10" on your photo, but having now read through two times I must say sorry I don't know the answer. Anyways, Im also interested since I have the exact same model so I add a sub. BTW, I have read that Goiot is notoriosly bad at answering enquiries but I haven't tried myself. Hopefully someone here will have better knowledge.
best regards,
Erik

PS how do you like your boat?
ErikFinn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-11-2018, 03:35   #3
Senior Cruiser
 
atoll's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
Images: 75
Re: What chain? Goiot 312windlass (1990)

get some samples of din and iso chain ideally at least 6 links,lay it on the gypsy the correct spec chain will fit correctly into the gypsy indents.

alternatively take the gypsy to a chandler who has stock of din and iso chain and do the test,iso chain links being longer will not lay flat on a din gypsy
din chain links being shorter will not fit around the gypsy evenly if the gypsy is for iso chain.
edit

i would suspect that you need iso chain from your description
atoll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-11-2018, 22:04   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: The Netherlands
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 430
Posts: 29
Re: What chain? Goiot 312windlass (1990)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ErikFinn View Post
Hi Tjurd, I thought I knew the answer before I read through your post but discovered that you know you have a 10mm gypsy as denoted by the "10" on your photo, but having now read through two times I must say sorry I don't know the answer. Anyways, Im also interested since I have the exact same model so I add a sub. BTW, I have read that Goiot is notoriosly bad at answering enquiries but I haven't tried myself. Hopefully someone here will have better knowledge.
best regards,
Erik

PS how do you like your boat?
Hi Erik,
Thanks for your reply, maybe try Goiot aswel.

We love the boat, really like her lines and almost nearing completion of a big refit. . If you want to know anything, we pretty much had the boat inside out.
Tjurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-11-2018, 22:06   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: The Netherlands
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 430
Posts: 29
Re: What chain? Goiot 312windlass (1990)

Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll View Post
get some samples of din and iso chain ideally at least 6 links,lay it on the gypsy the correct spec chain will fit correctly into the gypsy indents.

alternatively take the gypsy to a chandler who has stock of din and iso chain and do the test,iso chain links being longer will not lay flat on a din gypsy
din chain links being shorter will not fit around the gypsy evenly if the gypsy is for iso chain.
edit

i would suspect that you need iso chain from your description
Hi Atoll,

Yeah thats what indeed what i did, so if the one that fits the most snug then i guess it would be the DIN chain, ignoring the NF EN24565 code in the manual.
Tjurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-11-2018, 01:35   #6
Senior Cruiser
 
atoll's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
Images: 75
Re: What chain? Goiot 312windlass (1990)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tjurd View Post
Hi Atoll,

Yeah thats what indeed what i did, so if the one that fits the most snug then i guess it would be the DIN chain, ignoring the NF EN24565 code in the manual.
bear in mind that an old windlass gypsy like yours has also probably had quite a bit of wear on the indents making the pitch length slightly longer.
on a universal type like yours designed to accept both sizes.
the wear pattern will be reflected by which size chain was previously used .

so i would guess a shorter din size would fit better and deeper into the indent with less chance of jumping if iso chain was previously used.

it will also probably last longer than iso chain before it starts jumping as each link is shorter to start with,but will get longer over time as the galvanising wears away between the links.
new iso chain over 10 links is already 1cm longer than new din chain.

you might have to adjust the chain splitter key at the through deck hole, if the chain has a tendancy to stick in the indents due to its snug fit when peeling off.

10mm Calibrated Chain – DIN 799 or ISO - EN818-3
Two options -

din,The actual chain size is 10 x 28 x 34mm – Explanation- 10mm = Material Diameter 28mm = Inside Link Length 34mm = Outside Link Width.

iso,The actual chain size is 10 x 30 x 35mm – Explanation- 10mm = Material Diameter 30mm = Inside Link Length 35mm = Outside Link Width.

The reason for two sizes can be traced back to the variation in metric and imperial measurement. The correct size will be dependent on the manufacturer of the windlass.
atoll is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Goiot, wind, windlass

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rebedding Goiot Escape Hatch Windows Jon Hacking Construction, Maintenance & Refit 17 20-06-2021 07:46
Goiot Hatch parts Ehumpal Construction, Maintenance & Refit 3 10-03-2018 09:45
Keeping Goiot Round Hatches Open henryv Construction, Maintenance & Refit 6 04-03-2010 09:08
Goiot Windlass Maintenance ggray Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 0 27-10-2009 21:55
Wanted: Goiot 308 manual windlass ggray Classifieds Archive 0 29-03-2009 17:44

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 13:58.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.