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01-02-2012, 14:13
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#181
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
Around here the act of moving someone's boat can make you responsible.
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01-02-2012, 14:28
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#182
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
Good to know when up North. I do advocate moving things in a seamanlike manner for this reason. We don't have a harbormaster here, as the senior mooring people with the best view we wind up doing the handling and notifying. I've stopped retreiving the boat of one regular semi resident because of his attitudes and volatility. Ground tackle must be maintained but that is one boat I don't want to be responsible for....Mind you we also rescue other drifting craft and don't claim salvage. I've just been refered by the DNR to our local county representative to start the process. I've left messages so we will see. They don't really start enforcing unless there are complaints which tend to happen in the more crowded areas. Our family has a couple of moorings down but no one else is anchored out year round so we'll see if we have to incorporate or? to deal with that one. It seems difficult to set a mooring without being a land owner here.
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01-02-2012, 15:22
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#183
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
I have been in the same situation. I would wait for proper wind conditions to direct boat towards an unharming another boat direction, untie boat and drift it to a safe place, use boats own anchor (providing it has one). Now you de-rigg your mooring ball from curent location, repaint mooring ball and relocate it to a new place when ready and place anything on it if you cannot place your boat on it. (I used a dinghy) If the derelict boat drifts, call and report a boat thats drifting in danger of harming other boats to pd.
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01-02-2012, 15:47
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#184
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
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Originally Posted by youmeandthed
If you give him money what's to stop him from tying your boat to the one next to it and putting his back on so you pay him more? Plus it's difficult to pay people who don't want to be known. The cops won't do anything about it, just tell you to move the boat.
You could ask the local log salvagers who's it is, they know everything about the local waters.
Not all mooring are that hard to move, I've moved a lot, you just pick them up 10 ft and tow them across the bottom.
Really once the boat is on your mooring, it's your problem. I had a guy tie an old boat to our neighbours mooring (Howe Sound, BC), then when we left for a while our neighbour tied it to ours and it took our float away (either snapped the line, or picked up the two 5 gallon pails of cement). We weren't to happy with our neighbour, but life goes on, we just put another one out.
Our neighbour had called the RCMP, they said good luck not our problem.
And this is Canada, even the expensive meds are cheap.
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01-02-2012, 16:58
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
You guys are crazy. Setting a boat adrift is a deliberate act. If another boater hit it, you could be liable for MANSLAUGHTER. If a person parks and blocks your driveway with their car, you cannot go cut the brakes and push it into the road. but if you do, you can bet your ass you'd be liable for EVERYTHING that happened after that.
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01-02-2012, 19:05
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#186
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
Any navigation buoys nearby? Can't say I would recommend it, but around where I boat if you tie up a boat to a navigation aid and leave it the Coast Guard will be along shortly to remove it.
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01-02-2012, 21:09
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
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Originally Posted by Kettlewell
Any navigation buoys nearby? Can't say I would recommend it, but around where I boat if you tie up a boat to a navigation aid and leave it the Coast Guard will be along shortly to remove it.
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Good - let's just make the navigation buoy unrecognizable - that is a plan.
Let's just let the police do their duty which they seem to be doing. The wild west and frontier justice are done, kaput, over ...
We, at least in Canada, live in a civilized fashion with a healthy respect for the law.
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01-02-2012, 21:29
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#188
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
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01-02-2012, 21:51
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
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Originally Posted by Geoduck
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On the frontier they would hang a man for stealing a horse, this is not much different.
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01-02-2012, 22:01
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#190
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
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Originally Posted by jackdale
On the frontier they would hang a man for stealing a horse, this is not much different.
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sounds like you need a new sherriff,perhaps,since you now have a free boat on your mooring you could donate it to him,once appointed by the mob!
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02-02-2012, 03:56
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#191
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
A solution is to disguise the mooring ball as something else or make it invisible.
Oddball idea, How about sink it below the surface.
This would be a flexible rubber type of ball.
Have a small bright float and an air hose and when you want to moor up, then run air down to the ball and it floats back up.
When you leave, suck the air out and it sinks.
Or a mooring which has no ball, just a float and some line attached to mooring chain and you haul this up to tie up.
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02-02-2012, 04:11
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
LOL.... this is going from bad to worse...
So far we've had sink it... set it adrift... etc, etc..... all accompanied by furtivness and fear of retribution... which to me is natural...
I'd be pretty pissed if someone did that to me.. just over a mooring ball.
I personally would either tow it with my dinghy to a reasonable outa the traffic spot and drop its hook or transfer the problem to a nearby vacant mooring...
Then face the guy when he showed... all this 'under cover of darkness' covert operation stuff is pathetic...
Sorry guys... sometimes one has to just man up and front things... even when you know your gonna get a kicking...
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02-02-2012, 04:30
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
seems many are using this thread to be big tough talking a-hole types, you know the type that the same people normally complain about
come people, you can not go around setting boats adrift, sinkng them, lighting them on fire, etc, do you really feel that's acceptabe behavior
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02-02-2012, 04:45
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#194
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
Actually, I was thinking; "Burn the offender's boat to the waterline, and kill out the whole blood line, in order to fore stay retribution." Like they used to do in the old days in Japan.
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02-02-2012, 05:20
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CLOD
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Re: Squatter On Your Mooring Ball ( Canada )
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Originally Posted by captain58sailin
Actually, I was thinking; "Burn the offender's boat to the waterline, and kill out the whole blood line, in order to fore stay retribution." Like they used to do in the old days in Japan.
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there's always a long lost third cousin that knows how to use a sword and wants revenge, haven't you seen the movies?
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