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Old 22-07-2011, 10:01   #1
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Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

I'm curious to know how much rode you have for your "normal" anchor, and what is the deepest water you have ever anchored in.

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Old 22-07-2011, 10:09   #2
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30m chain plus 100m rope. Deepest was 25m.
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Re: Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

Presently gearing for choice of:
300' rode w/50' chain or
250' chain

deepest anchoring with my last boat was about 100' depth. That didn't leave for much scope - had 400' rode w/30' chain.
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Re: Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

I've 280 feet of chain but I usually deploy 100' in 10' to 15' if I'm at risk for a little summer squall. I'm on the US East coast or Bahamas so I'm rarely anchoring in water over 25'. The only time I used all my 280' was when I anchored in the center of a 6' deep pool for a hurricane.
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Re: Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

I have 100 m chain.
Deepest I'll anchor in is about 23 meteres because the windlass starts to have a groan after that.

But I have anchored at that depth numerous times. Often. Amazingly often.

Even in the BVI's we were at full depth a few times to avoid the crowds. Peter Island, Great Harbour. The Bight at Norman Island, even Jost Van Dyke outside the moorings was pretty deep.

In the Med a lot of places crazy deep.

If you want to anchor free you need to be able to drop where it is free. Sometimes you need to drop outside everyone else for a day or so till a nice spot closer becomes available
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Old 22-07-2011, 11:26   #6
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Re: Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

We have 400' of chain. I've anchored in 40' of water max so far. In typical 12' depth anchorages, I usually put out 150' of chain. Our bow is 10' off the water giving a 7:1 scope which allows me to sleep well. Obviously, if it's crowded, we'll set at 7:1 and pull some chain in.
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the bight at Norman Island? How did you find room to anchor? We went in there and the whole damn place was carpeted with moorings. We went down the island a bit and found a nice cove to anchor in
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Re: Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

So, can someone tell me this. For my new boat I've got 100m of chain. I'm wondering whether I should add a considerable rope road to it just give me options in the case of a very deep anchorage or with a 5:1 scope will this mean that rode might be dragging across the rocks anyway in depths of over about 35m. So, what I mean is, with this scenario, will the force on the rope road lift any of the chain off the bottom in calm to moderate conditions given that at 35m & 5:1, I would have 100m of chain & 75m of rope out? And I know, why would I be anchoring in 35m. But this is hypothetical.

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Re: Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

100 feet of chain attached to 250 road
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So, can someone tell me this. For my new boat I've got 100m of chain. I'm wondering whether I should add a considerable rope road to it just give me options in the case of a very deep anchorage
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Hi Greg,

The only anchorages I havent got into are some in the northern Med that are 30 to 50 meters and these used only by super yachts. One off Monaco; Portofino, Italy; Capri, Italy. Some in the Pacific too but under 30m.

So if 30 m is about the mx you would find then I think 100m is all you could need. The catanery weight of 70 meters of chain must be pretty large so I don't think 5:1 is needed. 3:1 should be fine.


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The only anchorages I havent got into are some in the northern Med that are 30 to 50 meters and these used only by super yachts. One off Monaco; Portofino, Italy; Capri, Italy. Some in the Pacific too but under 30m.

So if 30 m is about the mx you would find then I think 100m is all you could need. The catanery weight of 70 meters of chain must be pretty large so I don't think 5:1 is needed. 3:1 should be fine.


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Hi Mark

Well I don't mind the idea of of some rope road so I have the option of letting an anchor go quickly. If that's your experience then, with 100m of chain there'd be no rope out until I'm in 30-35m depth so there is no way 30m of rope is going to touch? Logical ?

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Re: Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

20m chain + 50m rope (no windlass).
Depth 14m at HW.

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Well I don't mind the idea of of some rope road so I have the option of letting an anchor go quickly. If that's your experience then, with 100m of chain there'd be no rope out until I'm in 30-35m depth so there is no way 30m of rope is going to touch? Logical ?

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G'Day Greg,

For those with all chain rodes (such as Insatiables one and two) it is customary to secure the bitter end to a strong point in the chain locker with a length of stout line that is long enough to reach through the windlass and to a convenient spot for cutting. This makes it relatively easy to slip the chain quickly in an emergency or to detach it calmly for end-for-ending, etc, all without delving into the depths of the chain locker.

And, as MarkJ has said, in great depths and with chain, 3:1 works for us. We actually had an additional 100 metres of rode on the end of I-one's chain for years, but never used it. It just lay in the bottom of the locker getting nasty, so we converted it to a rode for our back up anchor.

For the OP, we now carry around 85 metres of 10 mm chain, and have anchored in a max of 27 metres at Taha'a in the Societies. Seldom find it necessary to anchor deeper than about 20 metres, and almost never anchor in the sub 3 metres fondly mentioned in some of the above posts. To me, that's scary!

Oh, and Greg, thanks for the report on I-2.

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Re: Rode Length and Anchoring Depth

100' chain with 250' nylon rode and have as back up storm rode 300' of 1" nylon if necessary.
Deepest anchorage was about 75'.


















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