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Old 20-02-2013, 12:58   #16
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Re: Modern Day Anchors

I still like my old one- never fails!
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I still like my old one- never fails!
If you replace the rock with a concave (oversize) one it would work much better
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The boat photo is hopefully my next one.
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Does it make me a bad person if I still use a Danforth sometimes?
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The boat photo is hopefully my next one.
I cannot wait. Anchor polishing ( along with G&T sipping) is my specialty.
Oh and some of those mud crabs would be nice as well.
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Does it make me a bad person if I still use a Danforth sometimes?
That depends if you are upwind, or downwind of me.
If there has been a change of wind/or tide I have a good solution.
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Gosh, gone are the days of the CQR, Danforth, Fisherman, anchors! How did we ever get any sleep at anchor before the New Modern anchors were invented?? Gosh I guess Im gonna have to spend a bunch of boat dollars for a new style anchor to replace the 100 lb Danforth on my new to me ketch !! I guess I will have to sell a bunch of stuff, or take out a loan in order to get any sleep !! darn the world changes so fast !! I just can't keep up! must be from all the sleep Ive lost out on in the last 40 yrs !!!Ya think ??

HOW DID WE SLEEP?????????? My part of "WE" did not sleep and for very good reasons
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Does it make me a bad person if I still use a Danforth sometimes?
Danforth anchors are one of the best storm anchors you can get as long as the wind or current does not change. It has one of the largest flat flukes of any anchor out there.

I found out the hard way one night in a tight anchorage that a fortress does not work well in thick grass. Did not seem to cut through it. Long story, but I will not use it as a primary anchor again.

A lot of cruisers use a Danforth or the Aluminum Fortress as their secondary anchor, because it makes a great holding storm anchor that can be launch quickly from a dingy.

That should be one of our next anchor polls.
What is your secondary anchor ????
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We have tested a steel and alloy version of the Spade 80, so 16kg and 8kg. Frankly cannot tell the difference, except for the weight. They both set in the same distance, they both turn, or shuffle. They both sommersault identically and if you do a winch pull test they develop the same awesome holding capacity. They both dive and if loaded sufficiently disappear. And they fit our bow roller! We have been sufficiently confident to use the alloy Spade on a cruise to and from the Gold Coast, stopping and anchoring, Sandy Bay, Broughton, Laurieton, Trial Bay, Coffs (anchored in the harbour) Byron Bay and then a variety of places on the Gold Coast and then repeated on the way back. They do not carry mud. Never a problem - and it is inevitable that you enjoy 35 knot gusts (I admit not that high) in an anchorage on a cruise of that duration and some of the anchorages are pretty exposed to swell. Interestingly the alloy Spade will be stronger than the stainless version.

Spade are not an economic option here, in Oz.

We carry an FX23. We have never found a problem with it shuffling round but have never tried a 180 degree pull - its on the list. I'd rather carry a Fortress than a concave.
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I found out the hard way one night in a tight anchorage that a fortress does not work well in thick grass. Did not seam to cut through it. Long story, but I will not use it as a primary anchor again.
The secret of using a Fortress in vegetation is to let it sit for a while--like 30 minutes--before setting it. This allows the flukes to settle through the vegetation slowly. If you set too quickly, you'll end up with a weed ball every time.
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The secret of using a Fortress in vegetation is to let it sit for a while--like 30 minutes--before setting it. This allows the flukes to settle through the vegetation slowly. If you set too quickly, you'll end up with a weed ball every time.
Useful and interesting advise. Probably works for other anchors as well. It is certainly the answer to anchoring in thin mud, be too aggressive and anchors simply swim. Better to 'worry' them, jiggle them about, until they settle into something with a bit of substance.

There is a real need to define 'weed'. One person's coarse weed will be medium weed to someone else living with kelp!
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Exactly! There's weed and than there's WEED! I have found numerous times when the sharp flukes of the Fortress cuts through just fine in many grassy bottoms we get in the Northeast.
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One of the anchors I though about prior to purchasing the Manson is the SuperMax. Does anybody have experience with them?
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Just curious if anyone has experience with the new Manson Boss? Been trying to decide between that and the more expensive Spade. Supreme wont fit my roller and I don't want to modify. Thanks.
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