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23-04-2014, 06:36
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
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Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky
Brandy.. Wine... Beer...
Add whisky (double, of course), gin & tonic, some cocktails...
All so self evident
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the Latte is merely to offer a coffee backdrop.........
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23-04-2014, 06:50
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Nearly an old salt
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
Ive loads of Med mooring stories, but I aint recounting them here, as they mostly involve me !
dave
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23-04-2014, 06:51
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
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Originally Posted by weavis
the Latte is merely to offer a coffee backdrop.........
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And still will be nice to hear some funny stories...
Witha a proper backdrop...
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23-04-2014, 09:21
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
As DoubleWhiskey has eloquently pointed out, Med mooring is truly a spectator sport! Phil
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23-04-2014, 17:04
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Phil
Med mooring is truly a spectator sport!
Phil
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I think so...
But spectators are rather often keen to chat about sport events...
Not this time - I'm surprised
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23-04-2014, 17:07
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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23-04-2014, 17:25
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
Just imagine other boats instead of pillars...
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23-04-2014, 17:36
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
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23-04-2014, 17:38
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
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23-04-2014, 17:41
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
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23-04-2014, 18:11
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
All those videos above are good to learn a little, probably.
But... funny stories from shoreside cafe are still not coming...
Pity...
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23-04-2014, 19:31
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
I despise Med-mooring, the advice that you get and the horse they rode into town on. If you look at the sailing manuals that “teach” you the procedure complete with pictures, check out how many people there are on board. I have seen the “pros” do it lots of times and there is nothing to it. The captain backs down the boat. A crewman on the bow runs the anchor windlass and his mate watches the line. At the stern, another crewman feeds the stern line to two more crewmen in a dinghy, one driving the dinghy and the other ready to jump ashore, scramble over the rocks and tie off to a tree / rock – what could be easier? For the two person crew, my recommendation is -- be there first! Drop your hook and make sure that you have a really LONG stern line. You take this ashore with the dinghy, tie it off and then winch the stern around. If there is a wind blowing, you won’t pull the stern around with the dinghy unless you have a 50hp monster.
When you follow the pictures in the sailing manual for the “amateurs” arriving at a marina, you have a similar set-up. Someone runs the anchor windlass, the captain backs down the vessel and a crewman at the stern hands the stern line to someone ashore. Just takes four people. For a largish vessel with center cockpit, the captain can’t see the stern or the obstacles near the dock, he has to have a crew-member there. This means that unless he has a “remote” for the anchor windlass and a “friendly” ashore, a crew of two will have problems.
When we pulled into the marina at Ismailia in 2007, there were no other boats there and just a single person on the dock. He stood there helpfully as we backed down to the dock and my wife threw him a coil of line that hit him directly in the face. Apparently he was only there to gawk and he marched off in shock and disbelief that a western woman had assaulted him in such a fashion. Fortunately her lassoing skills had not diminished since she rode with Custer and we were able to tie up without his help. It can be done with two people, in which case it goes better if there are no witnesses.
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23-04-2014, 19:56
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
My buddy has a Princess motor Cruiser. He has the Sleipner (?) side thruster system fitted. It is pretty cool and can keep the vessel in one spot. After many hours of practice, he can use it perfectly.
We pulled into a marina in south Mallorca, in a slight wind over water situation. He came in, reversed dropped anchor and edged to the deck. It looked like he controlled it in still waters. We tied off and went to the restaurant bar on the side. Two sailing boats were behind us waiting to dock. We did it in like 2 minutes and to all intent and purposes our docking looked like the marina was protected from the wind........
First boat turned to reverse. The wind caught the topsides and he was pushed places he did not want to go....... 6 times he tried it before he gave up. The second boat turned into the wind about 50 metres away and gauged carefully the distance to reversing, dropped anchor perfectly and powered in reverse to the deck. We stood up and applauded.
The first yacht eventually moored around the corner. Later he came puffing and winded after all the exertion into the restaurant..... we heard him telling his friends how a wind blew up just as he entered and he couldnt control the boat.
Later that afternoon, it had got a lot windier, and the first guy was still in the restaurant.. we went to the boat and started it up. The system held the boat perfectly as I untied.
We saw him and his friend watching us.. so my buddy stopped when we was clear of the decking, and we first shunted sideways to the right then to the left. He then did a clear 360 in a perfect stationary position whilst we stood talking to each other on the stern.. and then we headed sideways to the end of the pontoons and then exited the marina....... The next day when we returned (our local restaurant) the staff were laughing over this guy.. seems he untied and got blown all over the place when he left.
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10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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24-04-2014, 03:42
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
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Originally Posted by weavis
My buddy has a Princess motor Cruiser. He has the Sleipner (?) side thruster system fitted. It is pretty cool and can keep the vessel in one spot. After many hours of practice, he can use it perfectly.
We pulled into a marina in south Mallorca, in a slight wind over water situation. He came in, reversed dropped anchor and edged to the deck. It looked like he controlled it in still waters. We tied off and went to the restaurant bar on the side. Two sailing boats were behind us waiting to dock. We did it in like 2 minutes and to all intent and purposes our docking looked like the marina was protected from the wind........
First boat turned to reverse. The wind caught the topsides and he was pushed places he did not want to go....... 6 times he tried it before he gave up. The second boat turned into the wind about 50 metres away and gauged carefully the distance to reversing, dropped anchor perfectly and powered in reverse to the deck. We stood up and applauded.
The first yacht eventually moored around the corner. Later he came puffing and winded after all the exertion into the restaurant..... we heard him telling his friends how a wind blew up just as he entered and he couldnt control the boat.
Later that afternoon, it had got a lot windier, and the first guy was still in the restaurant.. we went to the boat and started it up. The system held the boat perfectly as I untied.
We saw him and his friend watching us.. so my buddy stopped when we was clear of the decking, and we first shunted sideways to the right then to the left. He then did a clear 360 in a perfect stationary position whilst we stood talking to each other on the stern.. and then we headed sideways to the end of the pontoons and then exited the marina....... The next day when we returned (our local restaurant) the staff were laughing over this guy.. seems he untied and got blown all over the place when he left.
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Surely it must be Sleipner system on Your buddy's boat
I bet You both had a lot of fun
I observed many times that a better our own docking goes in crosswind, the worse next boat is doing... Funny thing
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24-04-2014, 05:15
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Re: Mediterranean Mooring
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Originally Posted by edmundsteele
I despise Med-mooring, the advice that you get and the horse they rode into town on. If you look at the sailing manuals that “teach” you the procedure complete with pictures, check out how many people there are on board..
It can be done with two people, in which case it goes better if there are no witnesses.
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Aint that the truth!
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