How good is the Rocna?

[Rustic Charm]

Any photo's of Rocna's on the bow with what set up you have would be good

Does anyone have any problem with their Rocna not coming up facing the correct way? I find I've got to use a stick to reach over and turn mine to face the right way before finalisting the pull Really annoying.

[pdenton]

We have been having terrible thunderstorms on NC coast so I have left the boatyard to take a picture but the solution is a pivoting bow roller. Many anchors swing around as you approach the roller.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

Any photo's of Rocna's on the bow with what set up you have would be good

Does anyone have any problem with their Rocna not coming up facing the correct way? I find I've got to use a stick to reach over and turn mine to face the right way before finalisting the pull Really annoying.

If your boat is moving ahead when the Rocna reaches the surface it is hydrodynamically ( I don't believe I even attempted to type that at 2216 local ) inclined to come up backwards. Give her a kick in the guts astern for a minute or so and that should sort it.

My big problem is all the mud it can bring with it.

I have a bog standard Westerly Yacht Construction ( in receivership) bow roller... comes up and houses no probs. Photo in the morning my time.....

[Greene]

We love our 44 lb Rocna. We have been cruising for 10 months and have been at anchor in winds in excess of 50 mph. Solid as a rock. Yes it can be a handful when pulling it out of sticky grey mud/clay, but we'd rather deal with that than dragging. It will come up backwards at times, but we've always had it turn itself around after a couple of tugs. It fit perfectly the bowsprit of our Island Packet 31. We keep a CQR, Bruce and a Fortress aboard as back up anchors as well. Sold the original CQR (45lb ?) at a consignment shop for $125.

Mike and Brenda

[Neptune's Gear]

I have a rocna. Had it over 1000 nights at anchor, in many locations. I think I qualify as a real cruiser - although ashore right now.
The rocna has moved 3 times. In every case it was fouled with something. Reset fine.
It's a rocna 20kg, with 10mm all chain rode. Boat is 12m, between 7-8000 kg.

It replaced a cqr. I'd never go back. I'd also consider a Manson supreme, spade, or sarca. The new generation anchors are pretty much all good, if used correctly ( good quality chain, right scope, properly set). Ground tackle is NOT IMO, the place to save money.

Oh, and I spent one miserable night at anchor with the wind gusting over 70 knots. Biggest issue was recovering the anchor the next day.

Also - it does come up upside down sometimes, but rights itself on the roller. If it doesn't, you can get an anchor straightener to solve the issue.

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[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

Any photo's of Rocna's on the bow with what set up you have would be good
+1 (especially pivoting setup)
Does anyone have any problem with their Rocna not coming up facing the correct way? I find I've got to use a stick to reach over and turn mine to face the right way before finalisting the pull Really annoying.

My Lofrans Tiger windlass doesn't have the guts to pull the Rocna 33 over the fixed bow roller. My solution to get us cruising sooner, was to splice up a rope strop with a snap hook - when the anchor is a'cock'bill (just hanging off the bow) I reach over and snap it on to the top-side of the anchor shackle, which is usually facing aft; as I manually haul it over the forward roller, the anchor rights itself. I'm working on a pivoting roller renovation to change this situation.

I did my best to research all the available anchors, including peppering the various manufacturers' reps at the Annapolis boat show with all sorts of questions. The Mantus guy very honestly said that all the new generation anchors are equally good - each with its own particular strengths and weaknesses, so go with what will fit your bow roller and your wallet. I had settled on getting a Mantus, but the local chandler didn't have the right size in stock, so offered me the equivalent Rocna at about the same price. I considered it to be equal to the Mantus and was confident it would fit (from the fitment guide on the website), and it did fit perfectly. Ended up giving away (no response to ads in local buy and sell) a 60# CQR knock-off and a brand new, never used Lewmar claw (about 80# iirc). I kept the 45# genuine CQR as a spare, and added a Guardian (Fortress' less expensive cousin) later.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

. . . The Mantus guy very honestly said that all the new generation anchors are equally good - each with its own particular strengths and weaknesses, so go with what will fit your bow roller and your wallet.. .

That's why we like "the Mantus guy". Breath of fresh air.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by Fortress

Funjohnson - please send me a PM with your shipping address...

We have a Fortress 55. What exactly are the mud palms? Our anchor spent six years in storage and was put together with all the pices at hand, I didn't see any extra bits at the time.

Cheers,

Ken

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

We have a Fortress 55. What exactly are the mud palms? Our anchor spent six years in storage and was put together with all the pices at hand, I didn't see any extra bits at the time.

Cheers,

Ken

Here you go:

Why Install the Mud Palms - The World’s Best Anchors!


I have the Mud Palms but have never installed them. I can't imagine how the Fortress could work any better, than it already does, in soft mud. In fact I'm afraid that if it worked any better, I wouldn't be able to retrieve it at all. And I'm not actually joking.

[Hudson Force]

Nobody wants the best anchor!

I know that sounds silly, but I believe we all are looking for a compromise. Once I was anchored during a tropical storm near a deck barge with four vertical steel beam "spuds" holding firm. I can imagine the security of having spuds on my sailboat, but nobody wants that. I hear those exclaiming twice oversized is best, but I don't want that either!

I want the compromise that allows for good holding, but ease or retrieval, fit on the bow and not excessive weight. I'm willing to have some of my reliance dependent upon skill and not just anchor design and mass.

When I started cruising I had the most reliable and sought after Danforth, but later the Northill seemed best for me. Then I was a CQR fan like all those that wanted the "best". I was not in the mainstream, but I was a great fan of the Haborfast Hi-blade for years while others stood by the Delta. I had a good run with the Bruce as my primary and now I'm staying current with my Mantus. I don't think my Mantus is significantly different from the Spade, Rocna or others of this generation.

I'm sure that there will be something new and better in the future, but it won't be better because it's bigger or heavier!

[motion30]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

Any photo's of Rocna's on the bow with what set up you have would be good

Does anyone have any problem with their Rocna not coming up facing the correct way? I find I've got to use a stick to reach over and turn mine to face the right way before finalisting the pull Really annoying.

Turn your chain over 180 degrees on the windless

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

. . . Does anyone have any problem with their Rocna not coming up facing the correct way? I find I've got to use a stick to reach over and turn mine to face the right way before finalisting the pull Really annoying.

It's balanced that way.

I had the same problem with my Rocna.

I solved it -- sort of -- by installing a Kong swivel and using a boathook to turn it around before hauling it into the bow roller. Get it slightly wrong and you can wreck your bow roller.

I think it's a major disadvantage. I don't know if the Mantus behaves the same way, but the Spade, which has no hoop, and has lead ballast in the toe, does not.

[bdbcat]

re:

If it doesn't, you can get an anchor straightener to solve the issue.

What is an anchor straightener? Pix?

Dave

[motion30]

[Q. UOTE=Dockhead;2145455]It's balanced that way.

I had the same problem with my Rocna.

I solved it -- sort of -- by installing a Kong swivel and using a boathook to turn it around before hauling it into the bow roller. Get it slightly wrong and you can wreck your bow roller.

I think it's a major disadvantage. I don't know if the Mantus behaves the same way, but the Spade, which has no hoop, and has lead ballast in the toe, does not.[/QUOTE]

I have a 105 pound mantus. it comes up correctly every time . at one time I was having trouble then realized that the chain had flipped on the windless

[Mike OReilly]

Our Rocna comes up oriented the wrong way probably 50% of the time. Seems to be all about how the chain ends up on the windlass. I haven't found a way to keep the chain oriented cleanly so I just give it a roll every once in a while on the windlass.

I can also get the anchor to roll around to the proper orientation by cranking it quickly over the bow roller. Of course, as I have a manual windlass, moving quickly is not something that comes naturally .