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22-01-2007, 16:05
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Plano,Tejas
Boat: Contest 27 - 'Mon Bateau'
Posts: 40
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I wonder why the CG doesnt get involved? Afterall doesnt a boat leave a slick behind after it bottoms out? Seems to me to be an environmental issue.
Or does the CG consider this to be a local issue?
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Raz
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22-01-2007, 18:10
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Winters - Out Cruising / Summers in the NC mountains
Boat: Brewer 42
Posts: 292
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scallywag
The boat that sank in St. Augustine had an occupant aboard.... He stated he was quoated as preparing to go out to sea. He stated he hit something. (Maybe an anchor line. The area was filled with boats.)
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He is full of *!#&. My wife and I run along the seawall where he was anchored. I had made a comment to my wife just a few days earlier about the condition of the vessel. As you stated, it was covered with rust. He was anchored and didn't "hit" anything, except possibly something he had just rolled.
Roger
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22-01-2007, 18:12
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Winters - Out Cruising / Summers in the NC mountains
Boat: Brewer 42
Posts: 292
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Scallywag
Where do you keep Scallywag? We are in the Municipal Marina.
Roger
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27-01-2007, 08:47
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: St. Augustine, Fl
Boat: Allied Princess, 36-Scallywag
Posts: 693
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Roger,
I am around the 206 Bridge. The development is called Treasure Beach. Very thin water at high tide. I wait until a full moon before I even attempt the transit the canals to the intracoastal. I draw 4.5 feet and am very careful when leaving. My wife me Captain Run-A-Muck. I keep the Scallywag at the Municipal Mariana for a couple of months four years ago but now the rates are just too high especially with the construction of the new and improved(?) Bridge of Lions. Sorry it took me so long to reply. This has been a busy work week.
John
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27-01-2007, 17:18
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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It does seem logical that boats should be treated like cars in this sense. Part of every car registration fee every year goes to the costs of towing away the "abandoned" ones, there's no reason why any state should ignore abandoned boats. Whether they choose to fund that from registration fees or general funds is the only real question. Or, they could do what NJ does.
If your boat goes down in navgiable waters and is declared a hazard to navigation, the NJ State Police and/or the USCG will contact the last known owner and tell them very simply, "Either you move it, NOW, or we'll move it and send you the bill."
If locals are feeling oppressed by abandoned boats, their issue is NOT against BOATERS, it is against their own lazy-ass state government and if they can't get the state to take action, they need to take it themselves. If they can't figure out how to do that...ride the jackasses out of town on a split rail and get someone in who knows how to send out a bill and then follow up collecting it.
Ain't so hard, especially if you're a government. "Here's your bill, you can spend one day in jail for every $25 if you don't want to pay."
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09-03-2010, 14:25
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: The Eastern Shore, MD
Boat: Homebuilt Paddlewheeler, 36'
Posts: 118
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freebie boats
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssullivan
Wow...very interesting. Again... if anyone knows of boats in the northeast USA that are getting tossed out, I wouldn't mind a PM.
Hazmat, whatever... I'll take it if it floats.
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You might also try woodenboatrescue.org
That's where i got mine
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09-03-2010, 14:55
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 51,320
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Sully is currently planning to build a Kurt Hughes Bridgedeck 45 from scratch.
He doesn't currently habituate the CF.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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09-03-2010, 15:00
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#23
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,439
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If one were to sail tru west palm u would see a load of junk waiting to hit the bottom
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09-03-2010, 15:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,439
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and then there are the two junk barges aground IN the ICW at the Dania blvd bridge That I do not understand as they are a hazzard to nav
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09-03-2010, 16:41
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Vashon, WA
Boat: Haida 26', 18' Sea Kayak, 15' kayak, 6.5' skiff, shorts
Posts: 837
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Whatever happened to the law of salvage and the law of finds? If it is anchored, and it is not yours, don't mess with it. If it is aground, or sunk, and it is abandoned, have at it. If it is in peril, save it, and you are legally entitled to compensation. People have trouble leaving alone things that are not theirs, including governments.
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11-04-2010, 17:04
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada on Lake Ontario
Boat: Roberts Offshore 38
Posts: 1,287
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How about a crew of people go aboard a derelict, clean it out and then tow it out to deep water and turn it into a man made reef? If the owner can't be bothered to deal with it, it may take months before he notices its gone.
Sabre
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11-04-2010, 17:26
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#27
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Saint Augustine, FL
Boat: 1975 Downeaster 38' Cutter
Posts: 363
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Can anyone give an update on the plans for the mooring field in St. Augustine? I am moving up there in a few weeks and am looking to use the field once completed for my boat.
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11-04-2010, 19:21
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: St. Augustine, Fl
Boat: Allied Princess, 36-Scallywag
Posts: 693
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Beersmith,
Here is the link to the city and St. Augustine City Marina.
CoSA: City of St. Augustine, Florida
I have not read or heard anything since January 2010.
John
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12-04-2010, 05:39
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 51,320
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Tenders for the mooring fields were opened April 22, and installation is scheduled to begin after July 4, with completion expected by about the end of August.
Waterfront residents can reserve moorings at the City marina beginning June 1st, remaining city and county residents beginning June 14, and all others beginning June 28.
For more information on the moorings field program, call the
Department of General Services (normal business hours) at (904) 825-1010,
or the
St. Augustine Marina at (904) 825-1026,
or email the Marina at marina@citystaug.com.
See Ordinance No. 2009-38
➥ http://www.ci.st-augustine.fl.us/you...ringFields.pdf
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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