Bruce or CQR

[AndyEss]

Originally Posted by thomm225

Just tack weld!

Nice I know soldering not welding.

When I'm ready I'll just replace the anchor with a New Gen anchor or a 25 lb-35lb CQR if I happen to stumble upon one.

There's a 25 lb CQR on the never used boat beside me, but it's not for sale. It would be a perfect replacement for my 20 lb CQR. See photo.

Plus I have this spare one-off Bruce

For crying out loud, just take it to a local weld shop to get a sleeve tacked into that worn out bore.

Probably will cost you $20 and maybe a cup of coffee.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by AndyEss

For crying out loud, just take it to a local weld shop to get a sleeve tacked into that worn out bore.

Probably will cost you $20 and maybe a cup of coffee.

A Guinness 4 pack of Draught Stout is a little over $7.00 here.

https://www.totalwine.com/beer/ale/s...ught/p/3376152

I could get 3 of those for that $20.00 and price of a cup of coffee.

Plus my anchor doesn't need to be repaired yet

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by thomm225

A Guinness 4 pack of Draught Stout is a little over $7.00 here.

https://www.totalwine.com/beer/ale/s...ught/p/3376152

I could get 3 of those for that $20.00 and price of a cup of coffee.

Plus my anchor doesn't need to be repaired yet

Heck if you were in my area I would do it for you for free . I'm sure you know a friend with a small welder in his garage.

[AndyEss]

Originally Posted by thomm225

A Guinness 4 pack of Draught Stout is a little over $7.00 here.

https://www.totalwine.com/beer/ale/s...ught/p/3376152

I could get 3 of those for that $20.00 and price of a cup of coffee.

Plus my anchor doesn't need to be repaired yet

That worn out pivot bore allows more and more coarse sand to enter and accelerate wear. It also creates more of a point loading from the pin, rather than a more uniform load from a properly fitted pin.
Libations are important, but reliable anchor performance is of higher priority to me.
A large enough worn bore might even allow the pivot to be locked to one side by the ingress of hard particles, which might tend to make that CQR break out easier after a tide change.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by AndyEss

That worn out pivot bore allows more and more coarse sand to enter and accelerate wear. It also creates more of a point loading from the pin, rather than a more uniform load from a properly fitted pin.
Libations are important, but reliable anchor performance is of higher priority to me.
A large enough worn bore might even allow the pivot to be locked to one side by the ingress of hard particles, which might tend to make that CQR break out easier after a tide change.

Like I said it's been this way for about 10 years, but I'll inspect it again before the season starts. And take a look at it here in a few minutes when I stop by at the boat.

Most times when I was caught in a bad spot before I was testing or taking a chance to see how the equipment would hold up.

These days I'm usually in protected spots when I anchor or in a spot where if the anchor fails the tide will just take me along with it either of which would be hard to recover from.

I'll continue to look for a 25 lb CQR or I may hook up that Bruce one off as it has no moving parts and I'm sure it would hold in most spots that I anchor in these days

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Heck if you were in my area I would do it for you for free . I'm sure you know a friend with a small welder in his garage.

No I don't know a friend with a welder.

My brother might have one, but he hasn't welded in years. My field is electronics, computers, cyber, etc. Not a lot of welding happening there.

Plus that anchor is already ancient. When I'm ready, I'll just replace it then use it as ballast.

I've probably lightened the boat by almost 500 lbs or more since I bought it. 400 lbs of which were from the removal of the 352 lb 10 hp Bukh Diesel and associated hardware to include gear box, prop shaft, prop, motor mounts, muffler, stuffing box, flange, prop, 20 gallon metal fuel tank, copper fuel line, spare engine parts, etc, etc. Plus dinghy davits, interior cabinet, cooler, sink, plumbing...

These anchors are available at a good price but too heavy.

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/bpo/d...427050482.html

[kmacdonald]

My 35 lb delta in good condition is still for sale. $10 and not a penny more.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by kmacdonald

My 35 lb delta in good condition is still for sale. $10 and not a penny more.

Thanks but I'm probably set for the next 3-5 years until I start cruising to more distant locations where I'm not as familiar with the bottom conditions.

I know the areas for about 250 miles South of here and 100 miles North.

The next items on my need to purchase list are a 12 volt deep cycle 95 ah battery as backup to my two 220 ah 6 volt batteries.

New rigging, AIS transponder, and solar shower. Plus good 48 plus qt cooler to replace the permanent one I ripped out

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by thomm225

Thanks but I'm probably set for the next 3-5 years until I start cruising to more distant locations where I'm not as familiar with the bottom conditions.

I know the areas for about 250 miles South of here and 100 miles North.

The next items on my need to purchase list are a 12 volt deep cycle 95 ah battery as backup to my two 220 ah 6 volt batteries.

New rigging, AIS transponder, and solar shower. Plus good 48 plus qt cooler to replace the permanent one I ripped out

Of F er him 5 bucks for the Delta with delivery on next cruise by each other. A Delta is better than a Bruce claw and would make a decent spare . Ditch the bruce for the Delta.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Of F er him 5 bucks for the Delta with delivery on next cruise by each other. A Delta is better than a Bruce claw and would make a decent spare . Ditch the bruce for the Delta.

Thanks for the negotiating advice, but I think I'm set for the next 3-5 years with anchors.

I'm always looking for a 30'-32' sailboat, but will use this one if nothing comes available. Who knows after I complete the interior remodeling this boat may be big enough.

It's already much more seaworthy than most of the sailboats out there.

Plus I plan to buy a 16' Skiff or aluminum Jon Boat when I retire to use at my home for fishing on seaside (oceanside) for flounder, trout, rock fish (striper) and redfish and exploring the barrier Islands again.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by kmacdonald

My 35 lb delta in good condition is still for sale. $10 and not a penny more.

You ever get to Seattle area bring it I will happily take it .

Would make a great sword or axe

[team karst]

Thomm. Looks like a busy marina there. Have u taken an anchor survey? Just for kicks.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by team karst

Thomm. Looks like a busy marina there. Have u taken an anchor survey? Just for kicks.

There is a mixed bag of anchors.

Some have the new gen anchors and those boats actually get used a few times when folks first purchase them then they don't move anymore or if they do a couple times per season. The anchors look unused.

But most boats at most marinas are not used.

Most of the boats that are used at my marina are racers.

Not many cruisers and when I do my weekend cruises once I cross the first shipping channel 5 miles off I don't see many boats even though there are thousands in the marinas nearby.

Sometimes I see 5-10 from a distance but not a lot

There are 4 more marinas similar to this one within one mile on the creek plus the Navy ships (Amphibs) and Navy Seals Fast boats plus Navy small patrol boats

Sometimes these guys (Navy Seals) come buy you in the creek at speed other times it's the escort patrol boats for the carriers or subs

Patrol boats second video. They escort the carriers and subs out and keep every boater at a distance with lights and radio calls sometime getting quite aggressive

The small boats are out of our creek (Little Creek) also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i2W5I8AmGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6535JUEGs

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by team karst

Thomm. Looks like a busy marina there. Have u taken an anchor survey? Just for kicks.

Here on the Pacific ocean in my area. most of the sailboats over a certain size are rocking the CQR. And under that 90% are using a Danforth style . Most of the smaller ( under 30 ft ) power are also using the Danforth. Over that is a mixed bag . About half over 35 ft are rocking the CQR or the AMI version of the CQR. Many of the newer ( less than 10 years old are usually running the roll bar Rocna. Most of them are never used as the boats are marina hopping queens. .

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Of F er him 5 bucks for the Delta with delivery on next cruise by each other. A Delta is better than a Bruce claw and would make a decent spare . Ditch the bruce for the Delta.

My boat came with a Delta and after about 8,000 nm of coastal cruising I replaced it with a Bruce look-alike because the Delta was often difficult to get to set.