Bruce or CQR

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by smj

I use the Mantus bridle hook

How does it grab the rode ? My hooks are for all chain .

[smj]

Originally Posted by newhaul

How does it grab the rode ? My hooks are for all chain .

The legs on the bridle are 50’ long so very rare that we use anything other than chain and bridle in the depths we anchor in. If deeper depths we use a separate line attached to the nylon rode with a rolling hitch.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by smj

The legs on the bridle are 50’ long so very rare that we use anything other than chain and bridle in the depths we anchor in. If deeper depths we use a separate line attached to the nylon rode with a rolling hitch.

Ok thank you for the info . With mine I recommend a short length of chain braided to a length of rode for rolling hitch or prussic knot connect

[smj]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Ok thank you for the info . With mine I recommend a short length of chain braided to a length of rode for rolling hitch or prussic knot connect

I’m gonna have to think that one over. On one hand it’s a great idea as I would be able to use my purpose made bridle. On the other hand it ads another step into disconnecting the anchor rode during one of those oh sh!t moments. Thanks for the idea
I guess once the rolling hitch is removed I’m back to step one either way.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by smj

I’m gonna have to think that one over. On one hand it’s a great idea as I would be able to use my purpose made bridle. On the other hand it ads another step into disconnecting the anchor rode during one of those oh sh!t moments. Thanks for the idea
I guess once the rolling hitch is removed I’m back to step one either way.

In oh **** moments it should be feedable through a windlass drum or right onto the deck locker or tramp. That is when it's needed .

Personal preference is a Prussia as when not under load it does slide easily on a rode with minimal effort.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

Wow ! 20 pages of drivel ... how long can this go on ?

Check and you will find there is still usable information being posted.

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Check and you will find there is still usable information being posted.

Yup ! I think I've learned that everyone agrees that CQR's are the best anchor ever.

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

Yup ! I think I've learned that everyone agrees that CQR's are the best anchor ever.

Good one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

Yup ! I think I've learned that everyone agrees that CQR's are the best anchor ever.

These guys seem to be pretty proud of their old CQR's at prices $250-$300

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/bpo/d/...385149664.html

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/bpo/d/...381687195.html

The local consignment shop here also has 35 lb CQR's for sale for $250.

I guess they hold their value.

Probably 90-95% of those that sail would be fine with old school anchors. The same could be said for just having a paper chart or two and an old GPS.

You really don't need top of the line latest generation stuff to enjoy sailing and to cruise a bit.

So far in 10 years I have spent maybe $10,000-$12,000 on my boat which includes the purchase price......and I splurged a bit on a new 8 oz mainsail, new 5 hp extra long shaft outboard, new replacement dodger, new mainsail cover, solar, inverters, tiller, handhelds w/GPS, new VHF with AIS/GPS, RPi Computers, HDTV, new custom made settee cushion..........and new paint over most of the boat , but

I'm still using the anchors that came with the boat!

Saved a bit by removing the diesel myself plus all associated equipment for the diesel....motor mounts, muffler, prop shaft, stuffing box, fuel tank, copper fuel line, prop, etc

[smj]

Originally Posted by thomm225

These guys seem to be pretty proud of their old CQR's at prices $250-$300



https://eastnc.craigslist.org/bpo/d/...385149664.html



https://eastnc.craigslist.org/bpo/d/...381687195.html



The local consignment shop here also has 35 lb CQR's for sale for $250.



I guess they hold their value.



Probably 90-95% of those that sail would be fine with old school anchors. The same could be said for just having a paper chart or two and an old GPS.



You really don't need top of the line latest generation stuff to enjoy sailing and to cruise a bit.



So far in 10 years I have spent maybe $10,000-$12,000 on my boat which includes the purchase price......and I splurged a bit on a new 8 oz mainsail, new 5 hp extra long shaft outboard, new replacement dodger, new mainsail cover, solar, inverters, tiller, handhelds w/GPS, new VHF with AIS/GPS, RPi Computers, HDTV..........and new paint over most of the boat , but



I'm still using the anchors that came with the boat!

The marine consignment store in Kemah Tx has an over abundance of CQR’s for sale. So many they won’t take any more under consignment as they don’t sell and take up valuable space.
Come to think of it, I’ve never seen a new gen anchor for sale there.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by smj

The marine consignment store in Kemah Tx has an over abundance of CQR’s for sale. So many they won’t take any more under consignment as they don’t sell and take up valuable space.
Come to think of it, I’ve never seen a new gen anchor for sale there.

Yeah the guy at the shop here says he has four 35 lb'ers at $250 each.

I may get one in a few years after my 20 lb'er wears down a bit more.

[malbert73]

Bacon in Annapolis also won’t accept CQRs. Just because they are listed for 250 doesn’t mean that’s what they are worth

Also seriously if you think 250 on a used 35 lb CQR is worth it please do yourself a favor and save up an extra 140 and get a Mantus m1. They are great on the bay. You will notice a huge difference and maybe won’t even need 15:1 scope

https://www.mantusmarine.com/product...mantus-anchor/

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by malbert73

Bacon in Annapolis also won’t accept CQRs. Just because they are listed for 250 doesn’t mean that’s what they are worth

Also seriously if you think 250 on a used 35 lb CQR is worth it please do yourself a favor and save up an extra 140 and get a Mantus m1. They are great on the bay. You will notice a huge difference and maybe won’t even need 15:1 scope

https://www.mantusmarine.com/product...mantus-anchor/

The thing about the CQR's and old boats like mine is they look "salty" as hell and will work you.

I had sailboats new with the latest technology offered in the late 90's early 2000's with high aspect sails, rudders, etc for racing but now I like the old school stuff and besides my electronics/computer/cyber tech background which is how I make my living I majored in History (History of Technology; technology being the latest in town clocks, colt pistols with like parts, Singer and Ford assembly lines, the latest suit of armor for knights)

Yeah I saw the Mantus prices and I called the shop, got the price, but am not buying.

As far as the scope, I'll probably keep using a lot because I'm closer to 70 years old than I am to 60 which means I probably won't change the way I anchor regardless of what's at the end of the chain.

I did my workout on Thursday this week and it almost killed me after two days sailing. 25 push ups, 5-8 pull ups, stretching, and 3.5 mile run with short walks here and there and 3-4X stopping with my hand on my knees to keep from falling ......

Getting old SUX!

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by smj

I keep hearing about the CQR being a great anchor if you know how to handle or know the correct procedure to set it. Don’t have to worry about that with the new gen anchors

Yes, I agree.
Because of the swivel which I think was designed more for a slow pivot in a normal tide change.. . Not the way Panope's Test does an abrupt 180° power pull, it has tested poorly.

With a CQR, there is definitely a technique.
You drop and range out slowly, then let it soak as it snuggles into the bottom, then Test astern after 1/2 hour to set it deep.

You shouldn't have to do that which is why I'm looking forward to using my new Excel

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by thomm225

These guys seem to be pretty proud of their old CQR's at prices $250-$300

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/bpo/d/...385149664.html

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/bpo/d/...381687195.html

The local consignment shop here also has 35 lb CQR's for sale for $250.

I guess they hold their value.

Probably 90-95% of those that sail would be fine with old school anchors. The same could be said for just having a paper chart or two and an old GPS.

You really don't need top of the line latest generation stuff to enjoy sailing and to cruise a bit.

So far in 10 years I have spent maybe $10,000-$12,000 on my boat which includes the purchase price......and I splurged a bit on a new 8 oz mainsail, new 5 hp extra long shaft outboard, new replacement dodger, new mainsail cover, solar, inverters, tiller, handhelds w/GPS, new VHF with AIS/GPS, RPi Computers, HDTV, new custom made settee cushion..........and new paint over most of the boat , but

I'm still using the anchors that came with the boat!

Saved a bit by removing the diesel myself plus all associated equipment for the diesel....motor mounts, muffler, prop shaft, stuffing box, fuel tank, copper fuel line, prop, etc

Clearly you are at the apex of seamanship a master of marine systems and have the most seaworthy vessel on the water. Congratulations.