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Old 27-03-2023, 10:24   #1
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Boat and Dinghy Protection from Chain Rodes

I just installed new davits on my sailboat and am getting ready to hoist the dinghy and outboard soon. I had been very concerned about dinghy and outboard security. From reading posts on this site, I have determined to use a strong chain to secure the dinghy and outboard to the boat when its on the davits and to the dock, when we are tied ashore.

That is a long winded preface to my question. To those doing the same thing, what do you use to protect the dinghy and boat from damage the heavy chain could cause to surfaces it touches? I would think that it would be a chain covering of some kind but I am not seeing any postings of what is being used.

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Old 27-03-2023, 10:29   #2
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I use a 3/8 7x19 ss wire rope encased in vinyl tube with socketed 10" loops each end with a ss padlock.
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Old 27-03-2023, 10:38   #3
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I use a 3/8 7x19 ss wire rope encased in vinyl tube with socketed 10" loops each end with a ss padlock.
Same here.

If anyone really wants it, they have a portable angle grinder anyway, which cuts easily through chain or cable.

Locks & cable or chain stop only those who are unprepared...
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Old 27-03-2023, 12:12   #4
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Same here.

If anyone really wants it, they have a portable angle grinder anyway, which cuts easily through chain or cable.

Locks & cable or chain stop only those who are unprepared...
All you can really do is deter those looking for easy pickings. Encourage them to "move along, the next boat will be easier..."
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Old 27-03-2023, 15:16   #5
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Re: Boat and Dinghy Protection from Chain Rodes

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I just installed new davits on my sailboat and am getting ready to hoist the dinghy and outboard soon. I had been very concerned about dinghy and outboard security. From reading posts on this site, I have determined to use a strong chain to secure the dinghy and outboard to the boat when its on the davits and to the dock, when we are tied ashore.

That is a long winded preface to my question. To those doing the same thing, what do you use to protect the dinghy and boat from damage the heavy chain could cause to surfaces it touches? I would think that it would be a chain covering of some kind but I am not seeing any postings of what is being used.

Thank you for your suggestions. The help members of CF have given me over the years is immense.
You can get chafing gear for your chain; or make it. If you buy some leather, you can sew it on yourself. I have found it helpful to mark where I want to make the stitches, so that they are of equal size, and look tidy. You need a glovers needle for light weight leather and a fine sail needle for heavier weight.

One key to lessening chafe is just to put anything between the dink and the surface it will rub on, then tie it so it cannot move. Even rags will work. We carry leather for various things, so it is handy for us, bought from leather wholesalers. You can also sew up a chain cover and have it close with velcro, so it is readily removable. The downside to sewing leather on chain is that once the salt water gets into it, and it will, from the air, if not from spray, it will be continually damp, and you'd really prefer it to be dry.

Leather makes good chafe gear for line, also, and this boat had rawhide spreader boots when we got her. It was just what had come to hand at the time it was needed.

When we chain the dinghy to the boat, as when we're leaving it for a trip, we don't do anything, because it's upside down on the deck at that point, lashed for a passage, and the chain goes from a bow shackle on the bow of the RIB to the nearest stanchion and back to the the shackle.

At docks, the chain runs from the o/b through the handle of the gas tank, over the bow, and then, with a lot of slack to a cleat, and locked to itself. Remember to lock it so the guy who got there first can still get his dinghy unlocked, too.

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Vinyl coated chain
https://www.westmarine.com/greenfiel...4_001_503.html


Plus a micro security camera with record function
https://reolink.com/blog/12-voltage-...-buying-guide/


And good insurance.
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Old 27-03-2023, 15:31   #7
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I was having this discussion about locking up motorcycles recently.

That’s even worse because it’s so simple to bring an angle grinder along for that.

Apparently the best way to slow an angle grinder is to wrap the chain in a Kevlar sock.

That slows things down quite a bit apparently. They will move onto the next one.
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It's harder to cut a cable with bolt cutters than a chain. And cable is lighter.
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Old 28-03-2023, 09:55   #9
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Apparently the best way to slow an angle grinder is to wrap the chain in a Kevlar sock.

That slows things down quite a bit apparently. They will move onto the next one.
not really Chotu. At work (college in a large metropolitan city) we have to purge old abandoned student bikes from the bike parking to make room for new students.



an 18v dewalt angle grinder with a thin abrasive cutoff disc has no enemies. every year we see new locks, new coverings, cables, square chain, round chain, u-locks. a fresh battery 30 seconds on a hardened chain, maybe 60 on a U lock. 10-15 on a cable/wire rope. coverings didn't matter.


if they want it they'll get it.
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not really Chotu. At work (college in a large metropolitan city) we have to purge old abandoned student bikes from the bike parking to make room for new students.



an 18v dewalt angle grinder with a thin abrasive cutoff disc has no enemies. every year we see new locks, new coverings, cables, square chain, round chain, u-locks. a fresh battery 30 seconds on a hardened chain, maybe 60 on a U lock. 10-15 on a cable/wire rope. coverings didn't matter.


if they want it they'll get it.
I donít know. Thatís what the motorcycle guy said. They said it causes a lot of problems when you are trying to grind through it. Gets all caught up and just makes it difficult.
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I don’t know. That’s what the motorcycle guy said. They said it causes a lot of problems when you are trying to grind through it. Gets all caught up and just makes it difficult.

the only thing that it does that's frustrating is if the grinder jumps out of the groove that you are cutting you have to pull the fibers back out of the way to see the groove again...


some of very newer D and U locks have specialized ceramic coatings and some are just bulking up the material (13 lbs lock) to make it take longer.
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Re: Boat and Dinghy Protection from Chain Rodes

At the risk of answering the OP’s question - we have 3/8” chain to secure our dinghy and a length of fire hose fits over this very nicely. I think I used about 4 feet of fire hose to make sure the tubes of the dinghy are protected.

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the only thing that it does that's frustrating is if the grinder jumps out of the groove that you are cutting you have to pull the fibers back out of the way to see the groove again...


some of very newer D and U locks have specialized ceramic coatings and some are just bulking up the material (13 lbs lock) to make it take longer.
OK. While I have you here, what would you use to keep a motorcycle secure on land? out in public. Unattended.

I have been trying to reason through this a little bit over the past six months or so.
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Used fire hose. Make friends at local fd and you can probably come away with a roll. Works good on all manner of chafe needs on boat.
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Old 28-03-2023, 14:00   #15
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I must be living right or sumptin'.....

I've never locked my dink nor motor and both have stayed put pretty much where I leave them....
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