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Old 30-07-2019, 10:52   #1
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Anchoring

Okay, so I’m having a little brain 🧠 freeze.
Question? I have a 44’ Jeanneau with a electric windless. 100’ of chain and 200’
of line road combined 300’. If I put out chain only I deploy a Mantus hook and bridle. But if I put out more then 100’ we get to rope portion of the road. What is the best way to secure the road to the bow Cleats? I don’t trust the windless holding the line. I’m looking for a way to Cleat off the road. But if the road is under Strain how can you get the line tied off to the cleat. Appreciate any information.
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My boat has a center cleat for the rode.

If things are under tension, then a quick bend around one cleat horn permits holding the rode fast while the foot switch provides enough slack to tie off.

Correct, don't use the windlass to hold the rode.
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Take the line off the gypsy when there is no load on it and wrap around a cleat. Pay out the line by hand.
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Pull on it a bit (moving boat towards anchor) to relieve any load, then cleat off.
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Old 30-07-2019, 11:21   #5
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Re: Anchoring

you can also tie a snubber line (already cleated) off to your anchor rode.

Run it from your cleat, through your chocks, outside of everything and back onboard through your roller. Tie it to your anchor rode just in front of your windlass with a rolling hitch, or if doubled from both cleats, a prussic knot.

Then just let out enough rode that the snubbers take the strain

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A rolling hitch is your friend. Seriously, after a bowline and a round turn with two half hitches it is one of my most used knots.
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Old 30-07-2019, 12:01   #7
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Re: Anchoring

RODE ... ;-)


Push forward gently with the engine, take up some of the slack, lay it up on cleat.


MOST IMPORTANTLY - do NOT, repeat NOT, mix up the ends of the rode ... the end leading to the locker needs to end up on the top.


Also - make sure the rode is secured from chafe where it crosses the gunwale/chokes.


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Assuming your are manually paying out the rode after you reach the rope, the typical figure eight, two hitch knot on the cleat. You go around the cleat first, then two hitches, one on each horn. There is no stress on the hitches, so it is easy to loosen and release, with the turn around the cleat helping to not put strain on the line as you are holding it. Also, no snubber is used, the rope road will absorb the shock. Or I could not be understanding your question.
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A rolling hitch is your friend. Seriously, after a bowline and a round turn with two half hitches it is one of my most used knots.
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Appreciate all the good information. Thanks
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Re: Anchoring

We cleat the rode and then tie a “bowline on a bight” see animated knots. This will give you two loops to attach your Mantus bridle without the hook. The knot is easy to remove and you still have the bridle setup.
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A 3 turn prusic knot hooked to a bridal. I use my Mantus bridal for mooring bouys.
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Cleat Hitch
https://www.apsltd.com/aps-advisor/h...a-cleat-hitch/




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A 3 turn prusic knot hooked to a bridal. I use my Mantus bridal for mooring bouys.

Prusik, Bridle, Buoys .
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Now let's start a discussion about the pros and cons of the "full wrap" cleat hitch as opposed to https://www.animatedknots.com/cleat-...knot-dock-line


"No Round Turn: After passing the rope around two horns of the cleat, always cross over and make figure 8 turns afterwards. This is because the Figure 8 Turns lift the rope up against the horns and out of the way of the first turn. Jamming is a risk if the initial turn continues around and under the first horn a second time (making a complete round turn). Now if a towline briefly becomes slack, the initial turn can separate away from the cleat and then clamp down on top of the second turn making it impossible to release the rope while there is load on the towline."
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