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05-05-2018, 09:28
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re: Anchor DIY
Mantus anchor is not registered patent or name
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05-05-2018, 09:30
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#17
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re: Anchor DIY
This anchor with logo “M” was testing anchor.
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05-05-2018, 09:30
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re: Anchor DIY
...wasn't this megalomaniac that took on the world & in the end had to be exiled to St. Helena, after he had suceeded in killing 3,5 million people in" his" wars, called "Bonaparte"???
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05-05-2018, 09:32
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#19
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re: Anchor DIY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonaparte-eu
Mantus anchor is not registered patent or name
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MANTUS ANCHOR PATENT U.S. 283-0217
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05-05-2018, 09:48
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#20
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re: Anchor DIY
I am in EU not in U.S.
Ps.U.S. Patent is pending. Is not aprooved
This is for personal use not for selling.
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06-05-2018, 09:28
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#21
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re: Anchor DIY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonaparte-eu
I am in EU not in U.S.
Ps.U.S. Patent is pending. Is not aprooved
This is for personal use not for selling.
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Those three statements say a lot about your character. Also, how is it "personal use" when you publish autocad and cutting files for everyone else to copy the Mantus anchor? (And "no", I am not actually looking for an answer to that question.)
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06-05-2018, 13:43
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#22
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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re: Anchor DIY
Mantus anchor is copy of BÜgel anchor with some modification.
There is biger diference between storm and Mantus than Mantus and Bugel.
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06-05-2018, 14:07
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#23
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Re: Anchor DIY
Quote:
Mantus anchor is copy of BÜgel anchor with some modification.
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And the Bugel anchor copied Bruce's patented idea of the roll bar...
Jim
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06-05-2018, 14:20
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Writing Full-Time Since 2014
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
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Re: Anchor DIY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonaparte-eu
I am in EU not in U.S.
Ps.U.S. Patent is pending. Is not approved
This is for personal use not for selling.
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That fact that you are EU does not make it ethical. Neither do the other technicalities. Your invention should sufficiently different so as not to infringe. Although you have made some changes, you have intentionally copied many features. If you did not believe the features had intrinsic value, why did you copy them. Thus, you are mindfully incorporating patented ideas because you believe they are valuable.
Publicly distributing plans that encourage people to copy a patented design is a violation of law. It is not necessary to sell the units for the action to be illegal. In principle, this is similar to posting copyrighted material, which is just as illegal as copying a book.
Just a few things to think about.
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Finally, few anchors are really "better." They simply made different compromises than others did. Mantus, Rocna, Manson Supreme, and Spade are all excellent, and each one of them is better than the others at something. Your anchor is probably somewhat in the mix.
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06-05-2018, 14:24
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Writing Full-Time Since 2014
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Location: Deale, MD
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Re: Anchor DIY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonaparte-eu
Mantus anchor is copy of BÜgel anchor with some modification.
There is biger diference between storm and Mantus than Mantus and Bugel.
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The Bugel patented was expired when the copying was done. That is a very big difference. The second statement is silly on the face of it.
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06-05-2018, 14:29
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#26
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Re: Anchor DIY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suijin
"This anchor is specially designed and will not unhook from the ground."
I stopped paying much attention after this....
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Yeah, me too. At some stage you're gonna want to move to another anchorage, and I can't afford to leave anchors behind everywhere...
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06-05-2018, 14:40
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Re: Anchor DIY
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Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat
Yeah, me too. At some stage you're gonna want to move to another anchorage, and I can't afford to leave anchors behind everywhere...
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Reminds me of the old joke:
Charter "captain" to charter base on day 4 of charter:
"Please send a boat out with another anchor. we've used the three that came with the boat "
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06-05-2018, 15:16
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Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Anchor DIY
It seems to me that some of the problem with this is whether or not the addition of slots and holes makes this a new anchor.
Another is that the OP is not writing in his first language, and I think we should cut him some slack because of that. I sure as heck can't write in any of the Scandanavian languages.
Ann
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06-05-2018, 15:20
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#29
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
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Re: Anchor DIY
He shot himself in the foot by saying right out in front of God and Country that it was a Mantus copy.
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06-05-2018, 15:30
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#30
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Martinique
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Re: Anchor DIY
As a multiple patent holder.. This thread makes me laugh.
So many people have no idea how a patent works, or even what it is.. Someone even posted the patent number, but obviously never went and looked at the actual patent filing. That patent number doesn't even bring anything up on the patent website. Not even pending status!
No matter, for the guy who posted the design and cutting files. EXCELLENT, GOOD WORK. As long as you are releasing it for personal use and not selling a product, or the design files, you are doing exactly %100 what a patent is intended for. You are not doing anything illegal or "unethical" at all.
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