Anchor Bridle Connections

[DotDun]

Fixed eye snap shackle

[Mantus Anchors]

That can work as well,
However what we offer is a Hook that is as strong as the Hi Test Chain of the same size,
No moving parts that can get jammed, that's easy to use...
If you want you bridle not to be the weakest link, you might want to look into the Mantus chain Hook

[DotDun]

Originally Posted by GregKutsen

That can work as well,
However what we offer is a Hook that is as strong as the Hi Test Chain of the same size,
No moving parts that can get jammed, that's easy to use...
If you want you bridle not to be the weakest link, you might want to look into the Mantus chain Hook

Acco 3/8" BBB Chain, 2650lb. SWL
Wichard Snap Shackle - Line Size: 7/16", Safe Working Load: 2821 lbs

[lancelot9898]

I use a klemheist knot.

[Mike OReilly]

We'd been using the winchard version for a few years, but switched to the Victory hook this past season.

Marine Outfitters [Victory CH2304.jpg]

The winchard never let us down, but I found that on our 3/8" chain it would often become locked onto the chain after holding through a strong blow. I also disliked the force vector on the holding link.

The Victory hook aligns the chain the way it was intended, and in one season of use (so far) it never locked in place. The only challenge I had with the Victory is that it was more finicky to set in place. It would sometimes slip off before it was fully set and weighted in place.

[thinwater]

The problem with most hooks and plates--every one that does not have a locking mechanism--is that they can and will unhook if they lay on the bottom. I've had it happen and I've tried every sort at boat shows; dnagle them on the floor and they come off. This may not be a problem for most users--monohulls using short snubbers and anchoring in deeper water--but for cats with long bridles in shallow water it is normal. If I anchor in 5 feet, the bridle will ALWAYS touch when the tide swings or the wind dies.

Does this cross design solve that? Perhaps.

I've been using this, which works well for cats (bridles) but makes no sense for a simple snubber.
Sail Delmarva: The Ultimate Chain Hook for Catmarans...

[River Cruiser]

I use this to take the load off the windlass, works very well.
http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/showi...20CH2303%2Ejpg

[estarzinger]

Originally Posted by GregKutsen

Bridle Hook just got simpler

You should take a look at my comment to you in the other snubber thread

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...r-89713-7.html

and you are walking pretty close to being "commercial".

[Mantus Anchors]

Originally Posted by estarzinger

You should take a look at my comment to you in the other snubber thread

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...r-89713-7.html

and you are walking pretty close to being "commercial".

Estarzinger, we sized our MANTUS HOOK to match the strength of the Hi Test Chain of the same size when made in mild steel, when made in stainless it does have a little extra margin for safety..... We have pull test data, if you want I can forward it to you.... We wanted to make the hook and our Bridles "soon to come to the stores near" you as strong as the rest of the rode.... The idea is, in a bad storm, is the last time you would want to have a failure.....

and I will tread more carefully ....
Greg

[Mantus Anchors]

Originally Posted by DotDun

Acco 3/8" BBB Chain, 2650lb. SWL
Wichard Snap Shackle - Line Size: 7/16", Safe Working Load: 2821 lbs

No, of course there are many options out there..... And wichard snap shackle is a credible solution.
What we wanted to achieve with the Mantus Hook:
Match the strength of Hi test chain in the case of 3/8 chain 5400 lbs
No Moving Parts to Jam, like a pin that's hard to remove
Ease of use...
Affordable, even in stainless steel


Greg

[JonJo]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

cat49,

My bridal ends up about 20 feet from the anchor locker (stretch length). My girlfiend does all the anchoring, so I needed something that she could connect and unconnect pretty fast on her own. My anchor bridal is both a snubber and bridal because of its length.

What is a Bridal Plate?

Mark

Hi Mark,

As an alternative to 20' of bridle forward of your hulls, or hanging down under the hulls and sitting on the seabed.

We run our bridle from the horn cleats on the sterns (we have room on the cleats to leave them there permenantly) up the sidedecks. We have 'hollow' stanchion bases so the bridle lines feed through there. We then run through turning blocks (attached to the bow cleats with 1 inch nylon webbing. The 2 sides of the bridle then meet under the bow roller at a common chain hook. We run the bridle, 12mm nylon through hose pipe where it runs over the cross beam.

We end up with about 42' of bridle each side. The bridle only just touches the water even when the chain is vertical. The weight of the chain and the weight of the slack of the chain (between chain hook and bow roller) ensures the chain cannot fall off. The bridle forward of the cross beam is sufficiently short that even under full load and stretch it sits under the kickers that holds down the prodder.

It works though might not suit all multis. Ours is 38' cat, 6t cruising weight.

Jonathan

[rebel heart]

Rolling hitch? I've heard people say they pop loose but I've never personally seen it. Knock on teak.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by cat49

I was wondering what people out there use to attach their bridle to a chain rode? What are pros and cons of Chain gripper plates like the sea dog one. Also why is it a bad idea to just use a long shackle to attach the bridle to the chain? being that the shackle pin would be inside the chain link. how is that bad for the chain? which is the least stress on the chain out of the chain gripper plates, regular hook, or long shackle through the link of the chain like the chain gripper made by kong or even just a regular alloy shackle?

The problem may be that shackles that fit well are not rated to the capacity of the chain. Haven't looked into it, just shooting from the hip so to speak.

[JonJo]

Originally Posted by Adelie

The problem may be that shackles that fit well are not rated to the capacity of the chain. Haven't looked into it, just shooting from the hip so to speak.

Concur - but hopefully none of us ever will be working to the capacity of the chain (and the bridle is probably the weak link not the shackle). I would not use a shackle because they are more fiddly, especially to get off in wind, than a hook, or bridle plate.

Jonathan

[estarzinger]

Originally Posted by GregKutsen

Estarzinger, we sized our MANTUS HOOK to match the strength of the Hi Test Chain of the same size

All I can say is that I have several 'hooks' and 'chain plates', none of which I have ever hand any concern about breaking (and they have been thru hurricane near misses), and yours is vastly bigger and heavier.

Just compared to either my Wichard hook or my ABI plate, it must have 4 times as much metal (both thicker and wider). I have never considered either under built (except for the spring loaded pin on the Wichard)

Out of curiosity . . . .Did you test a series of designs with different dimensions or did you just go to this size? Where does it start to deform relative to the SWL (5400lbs)?

This is just friendly feedback . . . strong is great . . . but as light and small as possible is also great so it is not banging in the coaming or when we drop it on deck or our foot.