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Old 23-11-2011, 15:40   #31
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Re: Anchor and Mooring Ropes: What Are You Using ?

Cat-man-do... with tongue firmly in cheek, I wanted to point out that in your original post, lines are for boats and ropes are for sex... cheers, Capt Phil
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Cat-man-do... with tongue firmly in cheek, I wanted to point out that in your original post, lines are for boats and ropes are for sex... cheers, Capt Phil

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Re: Anchor and Mooring Ropes: What Are You Using ?

I have decided I dont really need this, so here is the link for anyone chasing some.

Up for sale is a BRAND NEW 100m roll of 22mm very stylish and soft solid dark blue mooring/anchor rope. This is made from the worlds leading rope manufacturer and is the best you can get.
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Old 23-11-2011, 21:46   #34
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How about an anchor windlass that is chain only?

Chain is very expensive. To anchor in only 50 feet of water you will want 400' and maybe even 500' of chain. It's not used because you can "get away with less." it's used because it forms a natural catenary.. It straightens out and swoops back into a curve over and over without wearing out line, while absorbing a lot of shock. 100% chain is overkill.

Then he described a schooner he was on that had 400' of chain. They anchored in 200 feet of water, and put out all they had, because it's all abut the catenary.

The windlass simply was not strong enough to pull it up. They worked in shifts all day, manually pulling up 3 links at a time. It took the entire day to get the chain up -- and that wasn't nearly enough scope. They're lucky they didn't get caught in a storm.

They would have been far better off with a windlass, but more particularly, they would have been far better off with 45' chain (the length of the boat, and 1,000 feet of 8-plait. Put THAT in a windlass and they would have done a lot less work.
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Chain is very expensive. To anchor in only 50 feet of water you will want 400' and maybe even 500' of chain. It's not used because you can "get away with less." it's used because it forms a natural catenary.. It straightens out and swoops back into a curve over and over without wearing out line, while absorbing a lot of shock. 100% chain is overkill.

Then he described a schooner he was on that had 400' of chain. They anchored in 200 feet of water, and put out all they had, because it's all abut the catenary.

The windlass simply was not strong enough to pull it up. They worked in shifts all day, manually pulling up 3 links at a time. It took the entire day to get the chain up -- and that wasn't nearly enough scope. They're lucky they didn't get caught in a storm.

They would have been far better off with a windlass, but more particularly, they would have been far better off with 45' chain (the length of the boat, and 1,000 feet of 8-plait. Put THAT in a windlass and they would have done a lot less work.
I meant "far better off with a MANUAL windlass" -- sorry!
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Chain is very expensive. To anchor in only 50 feet of water you will want 400' and maybe even 500' of chain.
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Why on earth would I anchor in 50 ft of water and why would I use 10:1 scope.

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Then he described a schooner he was on that had 400' of chain. They anchored in 200 feet of water, and put out all they had, because it's all abut the catenary.
and why the hell would I anchor in 200ft

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Anchoring in 12 to 20 is more the norm for big multis which makes the windlass I have more than adequate
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Re: Anchor and Mooring Ropes: What Are You Using ?

I find full chain rode at scope 1:8 to 1:10 outrageous.

At 50' water depth I put in 250' chain maximum, so half of the 500' suggested. No trouble at all and seen it all up to cat5 hurricane (at that same single anchor and stay put)

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Chain is very expensive. To anchor in only 50 feet of water you will want 400' and maybe even 500' of chain. It's not used because you can "get away with less." it's used because it forms a natural catenary.. It straightens out and swoops back into a curve over and over without wearing out line, while absorbing a lot of shock. 100% chain is overkill.

Then he described a schooner he was on that had 400' of chain. They anchored in 200 feet of water, and put out all they had, because it's all abut the catenary.

The windlass simply was not strong enough to pull it up. They worked in shifts all day, manually pulling up 3 links at a time. It took the entire day to get the chain up -- and that wasn't nearly enough scope. They're lucky they didn't get caught in a storm.

They would have been far better off with a windlass, but more particularly, they would have been far better off with 45' chain (the length of the boat, and 1,000 feet of 8-plait. Put THAT in a windlass and they would have done a lot less work.

Raku,

Most of us and experienced cruisers in the waters of the Great Barrier Reef/Coral Sea/ Pacific Islands would not consider anything but all chain rode as primary anchor because of coral areas.

He is saying that his winch is set up for chain not chain/rope. Much of the time with a catamaran you are anchored in 30ft water although need to be capable of anchoring deeper.

Cat-man -do also has a descent sized Bow anchor (125lb manson) and his winch is sized to handle it.

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Re: Anchor and Mooring Ropes: What Are You Using ?

I have double braid Samson Supper Strong anchor line for my stern anchor/drogue that I have been very happy with. I haven't used it in a blow, so cannot comment on the wear, but it's suppose to hold up very well.
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