A Plea For Decent Anchor Lights.

[skipmac]

Originally Posted by Weyalan

Ok, since you asked





Right hand column, 2nd dot point. An illegal action voids my cover.

Your move.

Or even left hand column, 2nd dot point might apply: failure to maintain your boat..... in compliance with any statutory requirements.

[Cavalier]

Originally Posted by frant

My intention is to have a black marker pen handy at all times. If rudely awakened by black ball police I will jump up, colour my balls black and proceed on deck with full display of black anchor ball (and a spare just to make sure)

Two black anchor balls and a fleshy bowsprit!? ;-) ... now there's a internationally understood signal to "stay clear of this vessel"!

[rwidman]

I will start working on an electrically powered anchor ball similar to an anchor light. Turn it on and it makes a black circle.

If I can get this right, it will be a combination anchor light and anchor ball depending on the position of the switch.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by Dennis.G

It makes you safer from getting screwed by the lawyers in case of a collision with your anchored boat.

It seems to me that anyone so inattentive or drunk that they would run into a stationary boat on the water wouldn't notice an anchor ball on that boat.

[daddle]

Without an black ball you are "saying" that if a boat approaches you will behave like a vessel that can maneuver as if underway. If that is your intent then skip the black ball. I suppose the creators of the regulations considered that a day signal for underway and maneuverable was less convenient than a black ball. Duh.

Get over it or get off the water. And given a few weeks thought even a powerboater could come up with a way to mount a black ball above the foredeck ... Maybe.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by skipmac

Or even left hand column, 2nd dot point might apply: failure to maintain your boat..... in compliance with any statutory requirements.

I wouldn't pay tuppence for that insurance policy, cause its no such thing

Dave

[skipmac]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

I wouldn't pay tuppence for that insurance policy, cause its no such thing

Dave

Not even a ha'penny?

I do confess that the disclaimers do give me pause. Have a call into my insurer to ask them their policy on this.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by skipmac

Not even a ha'penny?

I do confess that the disclaimers do give me pause. Have a call into my insurer to ask them their policy on this.

I specifically clarified this with by insurers some years ago. ( Im a stickler for reading the fine print). They confirmed that I was covered for my own negligence ( I mean whats the point of insurance other wise), as long as such negligence was not criminal, infractions of rules, such as speeding, minor regulations etc, did not invalidate my cover. Ignoring the lawful authority of the police, the Minister etc DID invalidate my cover.

Dave

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by daddle

Without an black ball you are "saying" that if a boat approaches you will behave like a vessel that can maneuver as if underway. If that is your intent then skip the black ball. I suppose the creators of the regulations considered that a day signal for underway and maneuverable was less convenient than a black ball. Duh.

Get over it or get off the water. And given a few weeks thought even a powerboater could come up with a way to mount a black ball above the foredeck ... Maybe.

Dude, don't get your panties in a wad.

Get off the water? Seriously? I suppose you're going to personally take care of that?

If it makes you feel superior to other boaters because you display an anchor ball and they don't, that's fine, but it's something best kept to yourself. You're not making points on a web forum.

Just to be sure you follow all the rules and not selected ones, I have a question:

Before backing down on your anchor to set it, do you sound three horn blasts as required?

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

I specifically clarified this with by insurers some years ago. ( Im a stickler for reading the fine print). They confirmed that I was covered for my own negligence ( I mean whats the point of insurance other wise), as long as such negligence was not criminal, infractions of rules, such as speeding, minor regulations etc, did not invalidate my cover. Ignoring the lawful authority of the police, the Minister etc DID invalidate my cover.

Dave

The question is, if you were in the process of an illegal activity such as drug running and were involved in a collision, could the insurance company deny claims of innocent victims in the boat you hit?

If that is the case, none of us are safe on the water unless we carry uninsured boater insurance as well as our own collision and liability insurance.

[Dennis.G]

Originally Posted by rwidman

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If that is the case, none of us are safe on the water unless we carry uninsured boater insurance as well as our own collision and liability insurance.

Correct, and not only reason to have uninsured boater rider on your policy.

With this rider in case of getting hit by the drug runner, your insurance would pay for your damages, and then their lawyers would go after the drug runner for compensation. Without, you would need to hire a lawyer and hope for the best.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by Dennis.G

Correct, and not only reason to have uninsured boater rider on your policy.

With this rider in case of getting hit by the drug runner, your insurance would pay for your damages, and then their lawyers would go after the drug runner for compensation. Without, you would need to hire a lawyer and hope for the best.

OK. I do have uninsured boater insurance. I suspect many boaters in my area do not have any insurance at all. That probably goes for most of the world as well.

[Dennis.G]

Originally Posted by rwidman

It seems to me that anyone so inattentive or drunk that they would run into a stationary boat on the water wouldn't notice an anchor ball on that boat.

You are missing my point. Doesn't matter what the drunk boater saw, or even if he knows what a black ball means. But if his insurance company can assign 50% or 30% or whatever responsibility onto you for not displaying an anchor ball per COLREGS they will do so.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by Dennis.G

You are missing my point. Doesn't matter what the drunk boater saw, or even if he knows what a black ball means. But if his insurance company can assign 50% or 30% or whatever responsibility onto you for not displaying an anchor ball per COLREGS they will do so.

Whatever.

This is getting nowhere as with most of these discussions.

Do you comply with all the rules? Horn signals at 6:00 AM when leaving a slip? Horn signals when backing into a slip? If another boater calls you on the VHF and asks for a slow pass, do you slow down or rigidly maintain course and speed?

Let's hear it.

[sailorchic34]

Well other then San Diego (which has way too many rules anyway) is there any other US port that is enforcing Anchor balls. I know in the last 10 years, I've not seen a single anchor ball on any anchored vessel I've been around. Or if it had one I did not see it. I know the CG does not enforce it or check on it.

I'm just not going to worry about it. Leastwise not in the US or mexico.