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20-05-2019, 08:43
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Palmetto, FL
Boat: "Wanderlust" -- 1999 Jefferson Rivanna 52'
Posts: 874
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
We have two URB-E’s in storage. Wife doesn’t like them, so I bought two Dahon Mariners.
Guess what? She doesn’t like them either.
The URB-E is actually US made, in California, it’s expensive but very well made, and very, very strong. I’m 250 and it carries me easily. It folds very small. So small you place the whole thing between your legs on a bus while standing.
Ours has the large battery and has a 20 mile range at about 16 MPH
https://urb-e.com
This is a video of our model, since then there are newer models of course
https://youtu.be/Fx-qQ7hEdn8
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Those are pretty cool!
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20-05-2019, 09:10
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#17
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Virgin Islands
Boat: PDQ 36, 36'5", previously Leopard 45 cat and Hunter 33 mono
Posts: 1,344
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
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Originally Posted by dksail
I added a mid drive Bfang 750W kit to my mountain bike 3 years ago and love it. Rumpi posted a video above on how it might be done to a smaller bike. The cost is about $1,000 for battery, motor, display. Takes about 4 hours to put together. The ONLY downside is weight. The motor and the battery are about 8 pounds each. I have about 2,000 miles on the motor with no issues. I can go about 28 mph on throttle only. It has a peddle assisted range of about 60 miles with the battery I selected.
We will eventually add electric bikes to our cruising equipment.
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I am pretty sure that exceeds the limits for no license or licensing.
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20-05-2019, 09:11
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#18
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Virgin Islands
Boat: PDQ 36, 36'5", previously Leopard 45 cat and Hunter 33 mono
Posts: 1,344
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
I have an A2B folding electric bike. It was about $1500. Love it.
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20-05-2019, 16:32
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 148
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
Conversions let you choose your favorite bike model, that's why I posted a video about converting the OP's specific bike model. The motor used there is the 750W version but there are 250W versions that would be legal in Europe as a pedelec (pedal assist only up to 25km/h).
E-scooters are not legal in most european countries, and the projected laws to make them legal are talking about compulsive insurance and no sidewalk use as well as a 25km/h speed limit. That would only make them usefull in cities with an extended bike road network. We still have to wait for the legislations to pass to see how exactly it will be.
Given the OP's intended use he could actually buy any full size e-bike he likes. For onboard storage just take off the wheels, handlebars and pedals.
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20-05-2019, 19:25
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#20
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
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Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
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Originally Posted by CaptJohnEasley
Those are pretty cool!
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They are. I used to think she didn’t like it cause you look sort of silly, thing is so small it’s sort of clownish looking.
They are a little squirrely, you don’t ride one with no hands like you can a bike, and if you put your feet on the front foot pegs, if your not paying attention your feet can steer the thing, so the rear pegs are more stable to use. Hard surfaces only. Sand is death, you’ll fall for sure if you hit sand.
But they really can easily go 20 miles, and that’s over an hour of full throttle, and I wouldn’t ever want to travel 20 miles on one.
But seeing as how she doesn’t like the Dahon’s either, I’m not sure what it is.
She had rather walk, but my knees aren’t up to it, but I can bike for miles, just can’t walk it.
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21-05-2019, 07:35
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Italy
Boat: Jeanneau 57
Posts: 151
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
We have a couple of these:
They've been on the boat for the past 5 years without any problems.
Assisted range is about 50 Km. Very comfortable ride for a 16" bike.
The primary (purchase) reason for me was, once folded they would fit through the rear cabin door where they're stored.
After many miles on them, I wouldn't want to be without.
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21-05-2019, 07:48
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#22
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Palmetto, FL
Boat: "Wanderlust" -- 1999 Jefferson Rivanna 52'
Posts: 874
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
They are. I used to think she didn’t like it cause you look sort of silly, thing is so small it’s sort of clownish looking.
They are a little squirrely, you don’t ride one with no hands like you can a bike, and if you put your feet on the front foot pegs, if your not paying attention your feet can steer the thing, so the rear pegs are more stable to use. Hard surfaces only. Sand is death, you’ll fall for sure if you hit sand.
But they really can easily go 20 miles, and that’s over an hour of full throttle, and I wouldn’t ever want to travel 20 miles on one.
But seeing as how she doesn’t like the Dahon’s either, I’m not sure what it is.
She had rather walk, but my knees aren’t up to it, but I can bike for miles, just can’t walk it.
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Interesting info. Thanks.
We went with a couple of Rad Mini's. Heavier than most of the others but easily 30+ miles range at 19.8 mph and very comfortable. The fat tires make it stable on sand, too. They'll easily pull our little cart as a trailer when we're shopping. They're a little bulkier when folded but they fit nicely in the cockpit.
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21-05-2019, 08:18
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: In the Med
Boat: Mahe 36
Posts: 82
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
Yep, took a gamble and bought these electric bikes on eBay UK a couple of years ago https://www.scootercity.co.uk/z1-7-s...-20-white.html
20 inch folder has been good for shopping and I have managed 50l diesel a number of times with a trolley tied to the luggage rack! Been reliable and not to heavy with seat and battery removed, which is how we store them, one in each engine room.
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08-06-2019, 14:18
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Miami Beach Fl
Boat: Colombia Cc 11.8
Posts: 1,758
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
I have been considering electric transportation for some time including skateboards and scooters this is my choice. https://youtu.be/2B9R1brjCPc
PS it's the same exact price as the folding bicycle I currently own.
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08-06-2019, 14:50
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cruising QLD Coast Australia
Boat: Lagoon 380
Posts: 35
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
I was thinking of an e-scooter due to the convenience of storage and dinghy transport. But no pedal home redundancy.
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08-06-2019, 15:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: ABC's
Boat: Prout Snowgoose 35
Posts: 1,756
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
I've been using an electric scooter for 6 months now. It's quite common in Spain to go out on it and see at least 15-20 others on them during the course of the journey.
In a similar thread a year or two ago, I completely dismissed them, but since I bought mine I've hardly used my bike at all. Absolutely brilliant for money, but only good in tolerant places, and those with good roads (unless of course you buy an off-road scooter.
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09-06-2019, 06:18
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Cruising North Sea and Baltic (Summer)
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 35,024
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
FWIW, I decided against trying to bring any electrified transport on the boat. I've been riding my Jetstream a lot, and I realized that I don't really need the electrification even going to business meetings. At the same time, I realized how important the weight is, for being able to manhandle and store the device, in the dinghy, in the lazarette, or up the stairwell in a land dwelling.
I will however follow with interest what other people do.
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09-06-2019, 07:51
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#28
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,348
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
I see it as an all in or all out thing.
if pure electric you can keep size and weight down, electrify a bicycle and it gets big and heavy.
Our Dahons push the limit of both size and weight to me, the Urb-e's are actually smaller and about the same weight
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09-06-2019, 08:15
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#29
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,081
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeTC
I was thinking of an e-scooter due to the convenience of storage and dinghy transport. But no pedal home redundancy.
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Thats what the spare leg is for.. Pushing..
You need some exercise in your life..
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11-06-2019, 03:48
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,353
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Re: Land Dinghies -- Electric Bike?
anybody converted a brompton to electric? that’s my plan at some stage
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