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11-03-2016, 10:06
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
I would certainly be worried about metal cans. If you lash them to the deck like most people, I think they will start to rust immediately and stain your deck. I would go with plastic.
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11-03-2016, 10:09
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
I'm surprised they even make steel fuel jugs anymore. For a marine environment, no I wouldn't want them leaving rust marks as the galvanization fails. I would go with your standard plastic jugs and plan on replacing them ever 3-5yrs when they start to show signs of age.
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11-03-2016, 10:14
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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Originally Posted by valhalla360
I'm surprised they even make steel fuel jugs anymore. For a marine environment, no I wouldn't want them leaving rust marks as the galvanization fails. I would go with your standard plastic jugs and plan on replacing them ever 3-5yrs when they start to show signs of age.
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No question, it sounds crazy. What prompted me to entertain such a whacky notion is an article I read complaining about the CARB jerry cans. One Man’s Quest for Gas Cans that Don’t Suck | GAD's Ramblings
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11-03-2016, 10:27
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
We have these http://mil.sceptermilitary.com/fuel_containers and think they're great. We also have some other ones with the wacky US EPA no spill spout (of course it always spills if you try to use it!), not so good.
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11-03-2016, 10:31
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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Originally Posted by Schooner Chandlery
We have these and think they're great. We also have some other ones with the wacky US EPA no spill spout (of course it always spills if you try to use it!), not so good.
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Yes, there's definitely some irony there ;-) Are you keeping your steel cans on deck and if so, are they holding up well? I would guess they're a bit heavier than the plastic cans; is that an issue?
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11-03-2016, 10:32
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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The new fuel cans are a real PITA from what I have read. Thankfully, I have enough old ones to meet my needs. I certainly would not have metal cans, on or off, a boat.
I have read of solutions on the Internet on how to fix the new cans. I think there are also caps available on Amazon. Anyway, a search on the Internet should find a solution since I have read instructions on how to modify some of the cans to get them to work correctly.
Good luck,
Dan
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11-03-2016, 10:38
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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Yes, there's definitely some irony there ;-) Are you keeping your steel cans on deck and if so, are they holding up well? I would guess they're a bit heavier than the plastic cans; is that an issue?
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For some reason my post missed the link: http://mil.sceptermilitary.com/fuel_containers
Ours are plastic that the military uses. We got them from someone doing surplus at a military base. I don't know if you can get the Scepter military ones in the USA retail or not.
We don't have metal cans aboard. We do happen to have some mid-80's era metal jerry cans that we used with our car when exploring Mexico by car. Kinda hard to go far when you're driving a car with only a 200 mile tank range. Anyway, those were great for the car but the plastic ones are much better for car and boat IMO.
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11-03-2016, 10:41
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
We have some old fuel spouts that we retrofitted our CARB/EPA compliant cans with. We also tend to just use one of those hoses with the brass fitting and glass ball that you jiggle a bit to transfer the fuel. Here's a video of the kind:
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11-03-2016, 10:42
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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For what purpose?
The colors have different reactions to the thing that destroys them - UV.
The blue one for water lasts perhaps a few months, but they can be stored in a locker, but I used to buy the large bottles they sell at the supermarkets for drinking water in long passages. The yellow (diesel) and red (gas) last much longer if you are careful when buying.
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11-03-2016, 10:42
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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Originally Posted by dannc
The new fuel cans are a real PITA from what I have read. Thankfully, I have enough old ones to meet my needs. I certainly would not have metal cans, on or off, a boat.
I have read of solutions on the Internet on how to fix the new cans. I think there are also caps available on Amazon. Anyway, a search on the Internet should find a solution since I have read instructions on how to modify some of the cans to get them to work correctly.
Good luck,
Dan
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Thanks, Dan; I don't think I can live with the shame of using a metal can on my boat deck! I may try this instead: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.h...&f=17&t=666525
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11-03-2016, 11:23
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Location: Clayton, NY
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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Originally Posted by SVTatia
For what purpose?
The colors have different reactions to the thing that destroys them - UV.
The blue one for water lasts perhaps a few months, but they can be stored in a locker, but I used to buy the large bottles they sell at the supermarkets for drinking water in long passages. The yellow (diesel) and red (gas) last much longer if you are careful when buying.
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Thanks. My primary use would be diesel (yellow) with some gas (red) for dinghy and portable generator (if I get one, but that's another thread). Your idea for water makes sense to me; so no jerry can for water (blue).
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11-03-2016, 11:26
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Location: Clayton, NY
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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Originally Posted by Schooner Chandlery
We have some old fuel spouts that we retrofitted our CARB/EPA compliant cans with. We also tend to just use one of those hoses with the brass fitting and glass ball that you jiggle a bit to transfer the fuel. Here's a video of the kind:
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Yes, I've seen recommendations for the super siphon; looks like it beats trying to pour from the cans.
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11-03-2016, 11:37
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Location: Clayton, NY
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
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Originally Posted by Schooner Chandlery
For some reason my post missed the link: Fuel Canisters - Scepter Military - Military
Ours are plastic that the military uses. We got them from someone doing surplus at a military base. I don't know if you can get the Scepter military ones in the USA retail or not.
We don't have metal cans aboard. We do happen to have some mid-80's era metal jerry cans that we used with our car when exploring Mexico by car. Kinda hard to go far when you're driving a car with only a 200 mile tank range. Anyway, those were great for the car but the plastic ones are much better for car and boat IMO.
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Yes, looks like a no-go in the U.S. Might go to Canada for them if I can find a distributor nearby.
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11-03-2016, 11:38
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Re: Jerry Cans - What Are the Best
The super siphon's are the ticket. It's a major pain trying to pour from a jerry can into a funnel with any breeze. You end up with as much fuel on deck as in the funnel. Also it makes fueling a one person job. Nobody holding the funnel blocking the wind and one person trying to pour a full 5-6 gallon can. Their great pieces. Wish I'd invented them!!!
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