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20-10-2014, 08:10
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Horrible "non spill" gas cans
I am not sure if this is just a ridiculous U.S. thing or if the rest of the world has to suffer with this crap, but does anyone know where to get a non-carb/epa "no-spill" gas can. Gas cans like the one pictured below are all you can buy anymore and they are absolutely horrendous. You need 3 hands to pour them, they pour at a ridiculously slow rate, and they leak something horrible which kind of defeats the whole purpose to them.
So does anyone know where to buy or order a tradional style old school plastic gas can?
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20-10-2014, 08:14
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
You can't, you have the CARB to think for it, "California Air Resource Board"
The old gold standard Scepter "Jerry can" is gone too, some still on Eaby, and they are still made, but for Military sales only, maybe some will continue to disappear from military stockpiles.
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20-10-2014, 08:18
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
It is the spout that is bad. Someone in China needs to replicate the old spouts and sell them. I'll buy 5 today! We have become a country where we accept the absurd as normal these days. Where has all the common sense gone!!!!!
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20-10-2014, 08:18
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
Drive north and cross the border into Canada as we have both types available.
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20-10-2014, 08:29
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
I have no idea where to buy them. What I usually do to get an even and faster flow is take a flexible hose, insert it until it touches the bottom of the can, bend it back over the end of the nozzle and tape it there. Then i cut it just below the tape. That way air can enter the gas can freely and it causes an even and slightly faster flow.
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20-10-2014, 08:32
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
I drill a small hole in the top of the container and drop a small weight with a string attached in through that small hole and out through the spout. Then I remove the small weight and thread the string through a tire valve stem with the core removed and then the small weight so string doesn't pull through. Then use the string to pull the valve stem out through the hole you drilled and remove the string and screw on the valve stem cap and you have a vented can just like in the old days. You do have to remember to unscrew and then replace the valve stem cap after each use but if you misplace the cap, they're pretty easy to replace.
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20-10-2014, 08:34
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
OTR...
They blow donkey balls don't they???
I modded a few nozzles by taking the guts out and threading a cap on the end with a Buna N cap gasket...
Also have one with a soft plastic tube cover like you would get on an AC component tube end... no leaky...
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20-10-2014, 08:35
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
You can't, you have the CARB to think for it, "California Air Resource Board"
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Is it wrong to wish violence on these people? I mean do they even test the crap they mandate? They all need to just GO AWAY!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Crew of Turning
Drive north and cross the border into Canada as we have both types available.
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Hmmmm 6 hours of driving each way for gas cans. Have to figure out how to convince the wife this is a good idea. Do you think customs will detain me for transporting 30 gas cans across the border back into the U.S.? Figure may as well make some money if I'm going to make the trip. Group buy anyone?
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20-10-2014, 08:39
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
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20-10-2014, 08:39
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
I found these online. They are meant for "racing" only. Has anyone used this style can by VP before?
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20-10-2014, 08:40
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
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Originally Posted by jtsailjt
I drill a small hole in the top of the container and drop a small weight with a string attached in through that small hole and out through the spout. Then I remove the small weight and thread the string through a tire valve stem with the core removed and then the small weight so string doesn't pull through. Then use the string to pull the valve stem out through the hole you drilled and remove the string and screw on the valve stem cap and you have a vented can just like in the old days. You do have to remember to unscrew and then replace the valve stem cap after each use but if you misplace the cap, they're pretty easy to replace.
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NICE MOD!
But do you sleep OK at night knowing how many thousands of tons of hydrocarbons you are letting vent into the atmosphere through your itty bitty 3/16" dia vent??? Not the least to mention that air is getting SUCKED IN through this vent????
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20-10-2014, 08:45
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
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Originally Posted by ontherocks83
I found these online. They are meant for "racing" only. Has anyone used this style can by VP before?
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Have one, but 20 year old style... Lost the nozzle... IT WORKED GREAT! Used it for skis and bikes... don't know if they are different now... But I would give it a shot...
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20-10-2014, 08:46
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
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Originally Posted by ontherocks83
I found these online. They are meant for "racing" only. Has anyone used this style can by VP before?
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Wouldn't it be cheaper to just change the sprout?
Amazon.com: Briggs & Stratton Smart-Fill Spout: Automotive
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20-10-2014, 08:48
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
The new fuel cans are the ultimate example of "the cure is worse than the disease".
When I get time I plan to personally modify a few cans as well. Cut the BS spouts off and put a piece of flexible fuel hose on the stub and a real gasket under the top.
For vent, why not just drill a small hole in the top of the handle and thread a large, coarse thread screw into the hole. Remove for filling, replace for storage and transport. Could even put a small o-ring around the screw.
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20-10-2014, 08:50
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Re: Horrible "non spill" gas cans
The main problem is the poxy spout arrangement. It is so much easier to syphon the fuel from jerry can to the tank rather than us the spout provided. Yet it seems that the jerry can manufacturers do not supply simple screw caps.
When my current plastic jerry cans give up the chost, I'm tempted to buy the original steel ones as designed for the Afrika Korps 70 years ago which don't have the silly spout.
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