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Old 06-04-2020, 15:20   #91
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I have been looking at the Montague. There one of the best full size folding bike I can find. they are a little pricey but you get what you pay for.
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When I made my choice I used a spreadsheet to graph folded volume - it convinced me that if size was the primary criteria the Brompton was a clear winner (and the fold is neater than most) but I ended up with a Jetstream partly as it was cheaper (I was looking 2nd hand) and I wanted a better ride - particularly front suspension as I have trouble with my hands.


Like you I found the Jetstream ride actually fun rather than just acceptable but if you are fed up with the size I suspect a tricked out Brompton is probably better than the alternatives (at least the ones I looked at). I did find my Jetstream easier to cart around once I made it a tight fitting bag but compared to just flipping the Brommie closed and slinging it in the dinghy it is still a pain.


I did this back in 2013 and it may well have errors but I think it does show why people keep coming back to the Brompton...
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I've owned a few folding bikes and my favourite one is a full sized Fuji folding mountain bike. Folds up in less than 20 seconds, simple Shimano components, aluminum rims. Check out the Gerneral Classifieds and you will see I have one for sale for $150.
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We have two Mezzo bikes, aluminium frame 9 speed, the smaller wheels mean you can take it on public transport - many buses etc. Wont accept bigger wheels. Folds quickly, gears are straight forward to work on without a workshop. Only 1/2 the price of a Brompton!
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The small wheels canít jump kerbs , donít like pot holes and are clumsy when loaded with groceries and whatnot

The normal size, step thru city bike gets the job done better

i'm with you on that. once you ride a full sized bike you will know the difference
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i'm with you on that. once you ride a full sized bike you will know the difference
Yah

And go cheap , they donít last long

Many times your trusty bike must be left ashore

Bikes get lonely when their owners are away and frequently run away

I loose a bike every year or so
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My wife and I ordered Montague Alstons - 11 speed in hub belt drive - 30lbs. Full size everything...no thanks to the tiny tire bikes - just not stable enough for me especially on dirt rutted streets - it gives us a bit more flexibility and has some nice paniers to hold stuff.
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My wife and I ordered Montague Alstons - 11 speed in hub belt drive - 30lbs. Full size everything...no thanks to the tiny tire bikes - just not stable enough for me especially on dirt rutted streets - it gives us a bit more flexibility and has some nice paniers to hold stuff.

Looks good on paper. Add a front suspension, maybe more perfecter. (Except for that pesky cost thing.)

What parts on it will rust?

My current Downtube folder works well enough, and I like the 8-spd internal hub... and the front suspension does nicely smooth out some of the rough bits...

But the parts at risk for rust are mostly connectors or various sorts. Everywhere X connects to Y, that minor hardware tends to be rusting. Partly my fault, but partly because of materials used...

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. . . What parts on it will rust?


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But the parts at risk for rust are mostly connectors or various sorts. Everywhere X connects to Y, that minor hardware tends to be rusting. Partly my fault, but partly because of materials used...
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A good question. My Jetstream lived on board for something like 7 years, and did get some rust during that time. The frame, suspension, seat post, handlebar,stem etc. is all alu and well painted/poweder coated, so no problem there, but as you said, many of the chrome plated steel bolts and connectors started to show some rust.


I suppose if one had time and attention for it, you would want to replace all those things with stainless hardware, before you first bring a bike on board.
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Some parts are for sure going to potential rust issues and care/maintenance/cleaning will be a priority. The added protection we will employ is a product from Z-rust which is a Bike cover that we will velcro into our bike bags. It emits a rust inhibitor and hopefully the combination of good care, keeping it covered and the inhibitor will minimize issues.
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Some parts are for sure going to potential rust issues and care/maintenance/cleaning will be a priority. The added protection we will employ is a product from Z-rust which is a Bike cover that we will velcro into our bike bags. It emits a rust inhibitor and hopefully the combination of good care, keeping it covered and the inhibitor will minimize issues.

I'm afraid if I buy a Brommie for the boat, I'll have a lot more rust issues, as that bike has a lot more plain steel parts and a lot fewer ally parts, than my Jetstream, including the frame I guess I'll need to be careful.
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Some parts are for sure going to potential rust issues and care/maintenance/cleaning will be a priority. The added protection we will employ is a product from Z-rust which is a Bike cover that we will velcro into our bike bags. It emits a rust inhibitor and hopefully the combination of good care, keeping it covered and the inhibitor will minimize issues.
Interesting.

Are there any waxes, polishes, coatings one could use on a bike's steel parts to reduce or block corrosion from salt air? Someone mentioned Boeshield.
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I'm afraid if I buy a Brommie for the boat, I'll have a lot more rust issues, as that bike has a lot more plain steel parts and a lot fewer ally parts, than my Jetstream, including the frame I guess I'll need to be careful.
But you know you're looking at the titanium upgrades, so that will reduce the rust.

And just to stir the pot a bit ... there are/were some Brompton clones built in Taiwan with aluminium frames (Flamingo BP/ BP+ Folding Bike). But not available anywhere that Brompton's lawyers can reach. You could mash up the frame from one of these with the Brompton Ti parts and have very little steel ... But there is a reason that Brompton use steel for the frame.
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Interesting.

Are there any waxes, polishes, coatings one could use on a bike's steel parts to reduce or block corrosion from salt air? Someone mentioned Boeshield.

May work if you're religious about it. Freshwater rinse, often. Spray with something like Boeshield, often. Keep covered or stored, when not in use. Become a slave to the bicycle, always.

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