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06-04-2020, 08:25
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#76
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Bristol, England
Boat: Rival 36
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Re: Boat Bikes II
I’m a confirmed Brompton user of many years and have used them for heavy-duty work (making cycling maps) with repeated 25-50 mile days in all conditions. However on the boat you do have to take care with keep the rust at bay, particularly if kept in a locker without being used. A waterproof cover is essential and some form of protection on the steel parts you can’t replace with more rustproof material. As a “compromise” bike ie folding against performance they are hard to beat.
As you can see if the picture comes out, they can take a bit of load on the back rack.
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06-04-2020, 08:26
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#77
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Cruising North Sea and Baltic (Summer)
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 35,035
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Re: Boat Bikes II
Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot
. . . If you do ride cobblestones, you need a suspension mountain bike, really.. .
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Well, everybody in Europe rides cobblestones. Half the streets in the centers of the cities in Northern Europe are cobblestone. I ride them every day.
Riding them on an alu road bike with skinny 100psi tires would be murder, but I rode them with 700C x 25mm tires and with a Reynolds 531 frame in my youth, and it is survivable like that without a suspension.
But a suspension is a huge plus up here, and maybe anywhere were you don't need ultimate performance, and/or don't have ideally smooth roads all the time. Gives you a different view on curbs and potholes, too.
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06-04-2020, 08:28
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#78
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: Boat Bikes II
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailingmartin
I’m a confirmed Brompton user of many years and have used them for heavy-duty work (making cycling maps) with repeated 25-50 mile days in all conditions. However on the boat you do have to take care with keep the rust at bay, particularly if kept in a locker without being used. A waterproof cover is essential and some form of protection on the steel parts you can’t replace with more rustproof material. As a “compromise” bike ie folding against performance they are hard to beat.
As you can see if the picture comes out, they can take a bit of load on the back rack.
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Another useful data point
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
Walt Whitman
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06-04-2020, 09:13
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#79
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 142
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Re: Boat Bikes II
Imho. Just buy a 26 in Montague Folding bike used.
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06-04-2020, 10:09
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#80
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Boat: 1988 Sunward 48' Ketch
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Re: Boat Bikes II
I borrowed a Brompton for 4-5 months and rode it everywhere. I loved it, up to ~30 minutes, then it quickly got uncomfortable.
My wife surprised me for Christmas with a belt drive, 8-speed, Bike Friday. It is an awesome ride; although to be fair, we are on strict lockdown in Spain, so I’ve only ridden it short distances a couple of times a week for groceries or do laundry at a laundromat.
As the OP pointed out, it’s pricey. You could by 10 decent enough folding bikes at Decathlon for what this one cost, keep them 2 years, donate it to a person in need, and get a new one.
But it is a great ride.
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06-04-2020, 10:45
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#81
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Cruising North Sea and Baltic (Summer)
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Re: Boat Bikes II
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney777
Imho. Just buy a 26 in Montague Folding bike used.
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Way too big!!
If I could store something like that; I'd just keep my Jetstream on board.
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
Walt Whitman
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06-04-2020, 10:46
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#82
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: Boat Bikes II
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlane1181
I borrowed a Brompton for 4-5 months and rode it everywhere. I loved it, up to ~30 minutes, then it quickly got uncomfortable.
My wife surprised me for Christmas with a belt drive, 8-speed, Bike Friday. It is an awesome ride; although to be fair, we are on strict lockdown in Spain, so I’ve only ridden it short distances a couple of times a week for groceries or do laundry at a laundromat.
As the OP pointed out, it’s pricey. You could by 10 decent enough folding bikes at Decathlon for what this one cost, keep them 2 years, donate it to a person in need, and get a new one.
But it is a great ride.
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Which model BF?
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
Walt Whitman
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06-04-2020, 11:51
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#83
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Sausalito, CA
Boat: 2020 Amel 50
Posts: 127
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Re: Boat Bikes II
wow... i hadn't seen this one.. SOLID find. thanks.
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Originally Posted by Tillsbury
What’s the consensus on the Carbo X? This is the one I’ve had my eye on for a while. Carbon fibre frame for lightness, belt drive to avoid oil going everywhere down below, seems to tick all the boxes for boat use:
https://ridecarbo.com/products/carbo...31309818953791
I was about to order this before everything hit the fan, and still might when things change...
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06-04-2020, 12:07
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#84
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 8
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Re: Boat Bikes II
We have a pair of Joey's, designed and built by Airnimal, based in Cambridge, UK. See: https://airnimal.co/ Wheels are 24" but they fold superbly and we find them easy to store on the boat. They are now 14 years old and superb to ride with hub change gears + rear derailleur, you can ride anywhere. We've ridden about 10000km on them over the years. They've survived the salty air aboard when not being used. Compared to the Brompton they are in a different league.
Good luck with your choices.
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06-04-2020, 12:47
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#85
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 987
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Re: Boat Bikes II
From about 15 years ago: Dahon Flo*
- 28 x 66 x 79 cm**, 10.3 kg, 26", 27 speeds
- no longer produced afaict
Impressive specs (if you want a mountain bike).
*: https://www.cyclemotion.co.uk/dahon/flo-specs.htm, https://www.mtbr.com/product/bikes/x...dahon/flo.html, https://mbaction.com/is-a-folding-bi...uture-june-24/
**: ok, I left out, that it's rather assembling than folding, but still. Some other sizes to compare: Brompton 58,5 x 56,5 x 27 cm, Dahon Quix 81 x 31 x 82 cm, Friday Pakit 96 cm x 61 cm x 25 cm
PS: would love to know the fold size for the Airnimal (was unable to find anything)
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06-04-2020, 12:53
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#86
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Diego
Boat: Union 32 cutter.
Posts: 43
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Re: Boat Bikes II
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dockhead
I am now using my beloved Dahon Jetstream EX on land, and almost as primary transportation. It beats a normal bike for city use by far because you can fold it up and throw it into the trunk of a rental car, for example, or take it on a tram where a normal bike is forbidden, while not really riding any worse than a good road bike. I've put so many miles on it now that the bottom bracket is knackered and I need to do a complete mechanical overhaul.
Any thoughts?
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Think about getting an electric unicycle. Best thing I ever did.
Here is a link to a video I did explaining everything about it.
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06-04-2020, 13:09
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#87
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 987
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Re: Boat Bikes II
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkOne
they fold superbly and we find them easy to store on the boat ... Compared to the Brompton they are in a different league.
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Do you by chance have the size when folded? (would be curious...). With "different league" you are refering to riding comfort, right?
Interesting bike, thanks for the mention!
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06-04-2020, 13:33
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#88
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Pensacola, Fl
Boat: Alubat, Cigale 16, 53’
Posts: 64
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Re: Boat Bikes II
I absolutely love my Montague Paratrooper Pro folding bike. This is a full sized mountain bike that unfolds instantly, then requires the quick disconnecting front wheel to be installed. All this takes about a minute. I added aftermarket folding pedals so it fits easier in a locker below. Cheers!
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06-04-2020, 14:12
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#89
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: California
Posts: 6
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Re: Boat Bikes II
This came through my mail box, and I was thinking about belt drive before even reading the thread.
Clean and rust free makes sense if you're taking it out to sea.
I don't know if there are good folding options though.
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