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28-02-2015, 10:55
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Boat: Irwin 30
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Binoculars
Hi everybody...I am trying to get ready for the maiden voyage and the subject of binoculars came up. WOW!! There are sooo many out there and the prices are from, "I think they are too cheap(garbage)" to, "I could never afford those"...What should I do?
I need something for general all-around use that comes in around $100-175.
Suggestions are needed...
Thanks again you ALL!
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28-02-2015, 11:07
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Location: Southwestern Yacht Club, San Diego, CA
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Re: binoculars
Whatever you look for, consider a used pair (because you want the best value for limited bucks), make sure they are 7 X 50 (preferably without prisms to allow more light in twilight or night conditions), and that they are clear from one image edge to the other (indicating they haven't been damaged by dropping). It may be a challenge to find them in this price range, so you have a better chance with previously owned binos.
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28-02-2015, 11:25
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Martinique
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Re: binoculars
This topic came up on Sailnet. Most people suggested these..
Fujinon 7x50 WPC-XL Mariner Binocular with Compass 7107751 B&H
I bought them and have been quite happy.. Not sure they can be beat for the price.
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28-02-2015, 12:25
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
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Re: binoculars
Check Defender, they have refurbished ones form time to time, I bought our stabilized ones there for less than half price as they were refurb, but there is not a mark on them
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28-02-2015, 13:03
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Cruising North Sea and Baltic (Summer)
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Re: Binoculars
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Originally Posted by MarkSF
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Compass a gimmick?
Compass binoculars are more accurate for taking bearings than a regular hand bearing compass. Extremely useful. Assuming, of course, you one knows anything about navigation, and thus, cares.
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28-02-2015, 13:07
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Re: Binoculars
Anything 7x50 by Fujinon or Nikon... I would pass on the compass option and put the money into the glass.
At that price I would give anything second hand a miss.... esp if buying unseen.
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28-02-2015, 13:28
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Re: Binoculars
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Originally Posted by MarkSF
IMHO, the compass is a gimmick and you could save $60 by buying the model without :
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Are you kidding us?
Well, I guess it depends on how one wants to use their binocular. If he uses it to check out the naked babe on the next boat, you don't really need to use one with compass.
However, if in a jam you need to report to CG or others where your location is. You can tell them you are xxx degree from the water tower and xxx degree from Buoy Number x. They can get a visual fix on you much easier than GPS coordinates.
I am just sayingggg
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28-02-2015, 13:32
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Re: Binoculars
How good are the compasses in the cheap binos? just asking...
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28-02-2015, 13:41
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Re: Binoculars
We carry several:
The serious one is the Fujinon, 7x50, 7.5 degrees, Mil-spec and all the right features, though no compass. 23 years old and still going strong - aside from the attached rubber lens caps which fell off after ten years or so. These my wife typically uses, as her eyesight is the better of the two of us. These cost around $600 nowadays (street price).
The second in line is a Nikon Action Extreme. This is a center focus 7x50, 6.4 degrees, rubber covered set, and are pretty good for about $160. Not Fuji quality, but very acceptable. I've had these about five years.
Third, and the one we loan guests, is a Swift 7x50, also rubberized and center focus. This lasted over ten years but developed some internal fogging, solved by a couple days in the sun. These were less than a hundred dollars (75$) if I recall correctly. I would categorize these as the bare minimum for boaters.
While I don't have a compass equipped version, I can certainly appreciate the added value of it. Good optics are worth the initial price, as long as you can keep them above the water!
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28-02-2015, 13:51
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Re: Binoculars
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pinguino
How good are the compasses in the cheap binos? just asking...
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The worst is far better than the best HBC. The main use of binoculars AFAIC.
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28-02-2015, 13:52
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Charleston, SC
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Re: Binoculars
After losing a good pair into the water, I settled on a used pair of eBay. $40 or so. For some reason I have a hard time with binoculars, especially if I leave my glasses on. I've got to remember to ask my eye doctor about this the next time I go.
I sometimes have to ask my wife to look.
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28-02-2015, 13:55
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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Re: Binoculars
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dockhead
Compass a gimmick?
Compass binoculars are more accurate for taking bearings than a regular hand bearing compass. Extremely useful. Assuming, of course, you one knows anything about navigation, and thus, cares.
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+1 - As well as navigation, they are much better than a hand held compass to take bearings on an converging vessel to ensure that you are not on a collision course.
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28-02-2015, 14:06
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Re: Binoculars
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dockhead
Compass a gimmick?
Compass binoculars are more accurate for taking bearings than a regular hand bearing compass. Extremely useful. Assuming, of course, you one knows anything about navigation, and thus, cares.
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I resent the implication that I know nothing about navigation and thus don't care.
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28-02-2015, 14:12
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Location: Back in the boat in Patagonia
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Re: Binoculars
I would be concerned with taking a pair - with compass - purchased in the northern hemisphere into the southern hemisphere. Small compasses typically have fixed ballast to compensate for dip.... ballasted under the S end of the needle for N Hemisphere and v/v see here MAGNETIC COMPASS ADJUSTMENT - MARINE COMPASS CORRECTION
I once had a HBC ( came with the boat from northern Europe ) that was unuseable down south.. even my Plastimo steering compass exhibits a lot of dip. Typically steering compasses can be purchased for the region in which they will be used. Bino compasses? dunno.....
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