Anyone with the new Suzuki DF15A or DF20A Outboard?

[ranger58sb]

Originally Posted by colemj

Yes, ours has those "holes", only they do not penetrate the cowling (or are underneath the sealed air intake piece). I don't know what they are for or why they are there - maybe some indexing thing for manufacturing?

Yours penetrate the cowling?

Mark

Well, I thought they did... I'll have to double-check...

-Chris

[ranger58sb]

Originally Posted by colemj

Yes, ours has those "holes", only they do not penetrate the cowling (or are underneath the sealed air intake piece). I don't know what they are for or why they are there - maybe some indexing thing for manufacturing?

Yours penetrate the cowling?

Mark

OK, I checked, and our holes feed into the sealed area on the underside. I reckon I'll assume all is good

-Chris

[datsroj]

I personally own the 20hp, just dropped it off today for the 20 hour service. Aside from the chip there are also 2 different parts. The 15 hp has a restrictor plate on the intake manifold and one of them has a flame arrestor ( looks like a screen ).

Anyway I thought long about the 15 as well. The 20 pushes my 14.5 foot aluminum boat with a wood floor at 24mph and pulls my 10year old on a tube at 22.

One could get the 20 and just put a 15 sticker on the cover

[colemj]

We are in San Andres Colombia right now and are surprised to see the number of the newer Suzuki 20hp fuel injected outboards on the local pangas, launchas and small fishing boats. There is a Suzuki dealership here also, as well as a Yamaha one. It seems like the ratio is about 30/70 new Suzuki/old Enduro (I don't mean old as in design, I mean several years old in age). The dive boats, tour boats and higher end commercial boats all seem to be running large (>100hp) Suzuki engines almost exclusively.

Perhaps Suzuki is aggressively going after Yamaha's market in some areas? Maybe the price of fuel is causing locals to change? Maybe there are environmental restrictions in the works here (highly doubtful), or government assistance to move to better fuel/environmental engines?

Just an odd place to see these small Suzukis.

Mark

[ranger58sb]

Originally Posted by colemj

Yes, directly on the transom. I just cut the fuel line and hooked the tank end to the intake and the engine end to the outflow. We have had this filter for many years before the Suzuki.

Mark

Ref parallel discussion about fuel-water separating filters...

Was just looking at this on Parker's website, from a lead in a BoatU.S. magazine from a few months ago...

http://www.parker.com/literature/Rac..._-_RSL0154.pdf

The snap-in mount and the quick connects look pretty easy on paper.

-Chris

[colemj]

I like that concept. Only two issues - it is a larger physical size than we currently use (not that big of deal) and at $50, it is a bit pricey. Ours cost $35 for the housing and filter, and $12 for replacement elements. But since that Snapp is larger, it would presumably last longer than our much smaller elements.

Mark

[Captain Bill]

I bought a DF15A about 3 weeks ago and used it in Florida for 2 weeks and was very happy with it. We got to NC after a 3 day trip up the GS and it started on the first pull. The only issue was that it blew thick blue oil smoke for about 15 seconds after it started. The last day in the GS was a little rough but the motor was never in any unusual attitude other than hanging on the davits in 8 foot seas. This concerns me a bit.

[rcmpegasus]

I have ahead a DF15 now for four weeks. Runs great, but also puts out clouds of blue smoke when first started. Appears this is normal for them, as it soon stops and then runs fine.


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[Captain Bill]

Originally Posted by rcmpegasus

I have ahead a DF15 now for four weeks. Runs great, but also puts out clouds of blue smoke when first started. Appears this is normal for them, as it soon stops and then runs fine.


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I doubt that it would have passed the EPA tests if it was normal. Hopefully this will stop after I complete the break in period.

[colemj]

We have had ours for ~9 months now and do not have a smoke problem. Occasionally it produces blue smoke immediately upon starting cold, but this is a very small and transient thing - a puff lasting a second or two (it kicks out one puff that dissipates immediately). Our Honda did the same when starting cold. I have always assumed it is just unburned fuel from a cold engine. We don't use any oil (either engine).

There should be a Suzuki dealer in NC - could you take it to them under warranty for a checkup?

Mark

[a64pilot]

Mine doesn't smoke either, nor use any oil.
Where do you guy's get your filters? I'm overdue for an oil change

[colemj]

I get our parts from here: Suzuki Outboard Parts & Accessories - Browns Point Marine Service, LLC

Mark

[a64pilot]

Thanks Mark, that's about the only place a Google search was coming up with. I'll order from them then.

[ranger58sb]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

Mine doesn't smoke either, nor use any oil.
Where do you guy's get your filters? I'm overdue for an oil change

No smoke, no sign of oil consumption... but I'm still in the break-in period, so haven't gotten to filters yet.

I just assumed I'd order from Boats.net - New and Used Boats for Sale, Outboard Boat Motors, and Discount Outboard Boat Parts -- boatloads of outboard parts -- but haven't actually looked yet.

-Chris

[Cotemar]

The Suzuki DF15A and the DF20A are available in short (15in) and long shaft (20in) configuration and with manual and electric start -- for a total of eight models.

Prices start at $2,400 usd for the short-shaft, rope-start DF15A, and $2600 for the DF20A.
Why would anyone want a Suzuki DF15A when you can have DF20A which is exactly the same engine and weight. Do they charge that much more for a DF20A sticker?