2 strokes illegal in US????

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by rwidman

I didn't miss anything.

Yeah, you did but it's useless to point that out to you.

It looks like no matter what is said you will continue to disagree. Not sure what your problem is. Maybe you are upset over how Hillary is so much smarter than your boy Trump.

But back to the topic

Here are a few nice running 4 strokes

Looks like it's not the first time this young lady surfed her bike. It's like here on CF, experience is the key

[MarkSF]

"Looks like it's not the first time this young lady surfed her bike. It's like here on CF, experience is the key"

You can't seriously be likening behaviour that stupid and reckless (and on a public road too) to learning to sail, can you?

Why would you want to be seen to be encouraging anything that irresponsible?

Is putting your life and that of others in danger something that modern women should be aspiring to?

[Cottontop]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Speaking for myself, I definitely won't buy another Otto cycle car, unless it's a classic, or unless diesel cars are forbidden in Europe.

A couple of years ago, France announced a plan to phase out diesel cars. Don't know where it is with that.

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by MarkSF

"Looks like it's not the first time this young lady surfed her bike. It's like here on CF, experience is the key"

You can't seriously be likening behaviour that stupid and reckless (and on a public road too) to learning to sail, can you?

Why would you want to be seen to be encouraging anything that irresponsible?

Is putting your life and that of others in danger something that modern women should be aspiring to?

No, that's not what I meant. And how did you come up with comparing experienced stunt bikers with learning to sail? You must be hammered tonight.

I was trying to show the fellow that women are different these days and can lift a 60 lb 4 stroke engine or run for president and still be nice looking which he believed wasn't possible

I would never encourage unsafe behavior as is done on CF almost daily with folks encouraging those with zero boating/sailing experience to go cruising. You have seen it...just do it etc

Speaking of a woman that is a bit different than our good fellow from Charleston is used to. This one is gay, very nice looking, strong, and can easily lift a 60 lb 4 stroke engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4l7U__LuaY

[kn6ll100]

It's pretty simple. 2 strokes are half the weight for a given horsepower and as the other gentleman mentioned you can store them however you wish on either side... granted the newer Yamahas you can lay down on either side but that is not true for most 4 strokes. so 30 to 50 lbs? yeah for a 4 HP... but you can get a 10 HP 2 stroke is the same weight range. Some of us who are trailer sailors need the smaller engines for our dinghys and a 3.5 hp 2 stroke is around 20 lbs. Also, many of these manufacturers STILL MAKE 2 stroke motors... they just don't export them to the United States (that's how the fellow got one from Malaysia. Also, my sailboat is rated to 20 HP but I can't even haul a 9.9 HP on my boat without it negatively affecting the balance while it is on the trailer to the point where it is dangerous (100 lbs) so I had to go with a 4 HP motor (4 stroke) which is fine on lakes BUT in the Gulf 4 HP just don't get it in rough seas. If I need the bigger motor I have to haul it in my truck. Hoisting 100 lbs on and off a sailboat motor mount is a 2 person job. My main point being that there are MANY VALID reasons to desire/use a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke motor. Also, the newer technology IS AS CLEAN AS a 4 stroke engine. There only persists a stigma because visions of clouds of smoke surrounding the older 2 stroke engines.

JMS