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Old 03-05-2017, 12:08   #16
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Re: 2 Stroke Dingy Outboard

Check eBay by typing in 2 stroke outboard engine...a variety of new and used engines to choose from.
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Old 03-05-2017, 13:47   #17
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Re: 2 Stroke Dingy Outboard

Craigslist and patience. Plus an ability to drop everything and go buy your engine the moment someone lists one.

A good tool to search every craigslist site within x miles of your location is search tempest. It takes a little bit to learn how to use it, but once you do, you'll be able to find when anyone within 400 (or 150, or 1,000) miles of you lists what you're looking for.

I left work early on a Thursday afternoon to drive 120 miles to pick up my 6 hp two stroke johnson, and that was after diligently checking for new listings every (or sometimes every other) day for a couple months...
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Re: 2 Stroke Dingy Outboard

main engine with alternator
Yamaha 6hp sail drive (3years warranty) now 7 years old replaced 2 spark plugs every 6 months / change the oil in the leg every 12 months /


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Yamaha 3hp / change the plug every 6 months / change the oil in the leg every 12 months / now 8 years old still going strong


on this small yacht ingestion of water into the outboard is a problem / the 4 strokes don't like it ( bent valves ) in this situation they were a failure / went back to 2 stroke


initially 2 stoke engines were made by OMC usa / now 2 stroke engines are made by bombardier who now own OMC usa / the motor you are having problems importing appears to be made in usa / although our 6 hp looks suspiciously like a long shaft Suzuki DT6 made in france.


the 4 strokes pass new emission laws by re-burning some exhaust gas and mixing air into the exhaust so that the exhaust shows so many parts of CFC's per so much gas / the same amount of CFC is emitted to the atmosphere /the same as a lot of modern cars (air pumps etc) / these very corrupt and obvious government approved regulation avoidance schemes are costly and don't help anybody.


try contacting bombardier usa for replacement parts for your existing engine ( power head, leg)
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Yes... this thread is getting interesting. Each new writer seems to and more to the puzzle.

One goodieguy writes saying it is illegal to import a 2 stroke carbed motor, and technically he is correct, albeit not wholly informed.

The EPA should be banned for some of its own control-freaked stupidity. Don't worry, Trump (love him or hate him) is scheduled to clean-up some of that over-reaching gubment compost committee that takes abusive liberties while spewing pure unadulterated hypocrisy on US citizens/ businesses both large and small.
Even congress is likely more respected than the EPA. For example: permitting (or looking the other way) raw sewage to be dumped into the Anacostia, the Potomac and the Bay when rains are high. Why do you think the Potomac River is so gross? Thank you EPA... Meanwhile while those polyester-wearing booger-balled fashion-challenged bureaucratic goobers are worried about a few molecular-sized puffs from the occasional recreational mini-outboard. Oh, why doesn't EPA ban all the Jets flying over our homes dumping tons of carcinogenic soot each day? Let's check the carbon footprint of vehicles the EPA approves as well as the quality of the water in the Potomac and suggest the drinking fountains of the EPA building be directly piped from the Potomac unfiltered and let them drink like the fish they allegedly protect...ha.. right. Since it's ok to pollute the Potomac while EPA worries about a few weekend-operated dingy outboards, seems only fair. As Charles Dicken's said: "The Law is an ass."

Now, here is what I believe is legal:

1) Purchase a Tohatsu 9.8 2 stroke anywhere but the USA. Stick it on your boat as a kicker for X period of time and one day it sails to USA as used for personal use. They can be purchased for $1,750.

2) Have a mechanic separate the powerhead from the outboard and dismantle carb from it. At this point, it is considered either used or re-manufactured parts for personal use and may be designated at such. (some say you must separate the crank from the piston.. not sure about that??) Mail the engine parts to the USA in its specified class. They can't and don't ban re-manufactured or used parts. Then mail the lower unit and engine cover in another box which makes it easier to ship anyway. Mark the appropriate value of each and pay your duty as designated based on value to customs. You have now imported used or re-manufactured engine parts. Do they even check that close anyway? Then you can re-assemble your used or re-manufactured clean parts just as though you were fixing an older 2 stroke carbed engine. Not a big deal.

The Tohatsu 9.8 is the one to do as it is only 27kgs and many lakes have a 10HP max. Plus this motor screams and is indestructible. Check a few You tubes and watch it go.... nothing comes close weight to power ratio. A 4 stroke will likely weight 30-40 pounds more, be slower responding and since it has a crankcase you can't just lay it any which way... and hanging a 10 HP 4 stroke off a dingy or carrying around is a huge delta.... Quasimoto.

If you separate the engine from the outboard, pull the wires plugs and take the carb off and mail separately, question become does that technically fly or pass? I think it does... anyone who knows or has heard otherwise, please share your story/views.
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We have a used Yamaha 8hp we are not using, but you were looking for another brand.

I really wanted a 15hp 2 stroke Yamaha and was doing the same thing as you (there has to be a place I can get a 2 stroke), even tried Canada figuring I could drive there, but they stopped 2 strokes as well. Searched CL in the great lakes area, nada. Wish you the best of luck finding one.
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You cannot legally import a 2 stroke into the US. You are asking the collective membership how to circumvent the law.

This is against site policy.
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