Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 07-11-2012, 05:19   #1
Senior Cruiser
 
hpeer's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,567
What is a " spare man"

Ran into this term when researching how to fit an anchor to a pulpit.

Any pics?
hpeer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 05:44   #2
Eternal Member
 
monte's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Australia
Boat: Lagoon 400
Posts: 3,650
Images: 1
Re: What is a " spare man"

here Let me google that for you
monte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 05:49   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Esslingen, Germany
Posts: 34
Re: What is a " spare man"

I googled "Spare man sailing" and 'i'm feeling lucky' and it brought me here. Care to explain what it is now?
Delay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 06:15   #4
Registered User
 
tbodine88's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Austin TX
Boat: Nimble Artic 26
Posts: 953
Images: 6
Re: What is a " spare man"

This is from
Common fit challenges (Rocna Knowledge Base)

A new place for the anchor

Bowsprits and their associated stays are sometimes such an issue that it can be worthwhile installing a dedicated spare man, in a position that allows the anchor and rode to deploy and stow clear of all obstacles. This does not have to be too involved, and a regular bow roller mounted to the side of the bowsprit can typically work well. This solution is probably the best to consider, particularly with a new vessel design or build.

So apparently the spare man is a separate bow roller off to the side, to place your anchor so it doesn't interfere with other operations at the bow.

So maybe some thing like this:

http://www.sailblogs.com/member/sapp...0003_scale.jpg
tbodine88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 06:36   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Seattle
Boat: Cal 40 (sold). Still have a Hobie 20
Posts: 2,945
Images: 7
Re: What is a " spare man"

35 years of sailing and this is the first time I've seen spare man. If you look at the Tayana 37 picture in the Rocna link above, I'm guessing it is the roller mounted farther forward on the bowsprit. Perhaps you raise the anchor on the outboard roller to keep from banging the hull, then take the chain off of that roller to stow the anchor closer into the hull.

John
cal40john is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 13:47   #6
Senior Cruiser
 
hpeer's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,567
Re: What is a " spare man"

Yes, I found the term on the Rocna site, then Googled it and still didn't get a good idea.

Thus I thought I would tap the combined nautical wisdom of CF.
hpeer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 13:50   #7
Registered User
 
SkiprJohn's Avatar

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Nicholasville, Kentucky
Boat: 15 foot Canoe
Posts: 14,191
Re: What is a " spare man"

Probably something that Rocna made up?

kind regards,
__________________
John
SkiprJohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 14:57   #8
Senior Cruiser
 
hpeer's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,567
Re: What is a " spare man"

Probably not. I did find a few other references, but nothing helpful.
hpeer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 15:38   #9
Registered User
 
Vasco's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
Posts: 7,557
Re: What is a " spare man"

Craig Smith?
__________________
Rick I
Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
Vasco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 16:20   #10
֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
Re: What is a " spare man"

Apparently a local NZ term, because it isn't in Chapman's or any other usual US sources.

"“Going forward to lower the main, I noticed that the anchor was banging up and down on the spare man and the plow itself had come off the roller. The anchor is secured by taking up any slack in the chain so that the hook of the plow is firmly held under the roller. A lashing held the shackle end of the anchor on the spare man."
"In hindsight, David says it hadn‘t been appropriate to rely on the anchor winch to hold the anchor in the spare man roller. “It should have had a second lashing as a back-up,” he says. “But this system had worked for the 10 years we have had this boat and I had lapsed into complacency.”"

from Maritime NZ at
Safe Seas Clean Seas – issue 40, June 2012 - Maritime New Zealand

Sounds like an ordinary "bow roller" in Colonialese. Perhaps Maritime NZ could tell you more.
hellosailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 16:28   #11
Registered User
 
Badsanta's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: virginia
Boat: islandpacket
Posts: 1,967
I thought it was like a trunk monkey
__________________
That derelict boat was another dream for somebody else, don't let it be your nightmare and a waste of your life.
Badsanta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 16:35   #12
Registered User
 
nitpik's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Canada, North Channel of Lake Huron
Boat: Pilgrim 40
Posts: 234
Send a message via Yahoo to nitpik Send a message via Skype™ to nitpik
Re: What is a " spare man"

I believe the term "spare man" refers to a guide/bracket about anchor shank length behind the primary bow roller. It guides the chain and then the anchor shank as you retrieve the anchor, and forms a resting place for the shank up off the deck. The spare man may have a roller fitted, and usually the shank is lashed to this fitting to keep the anchor secure in a seaway.
__________________
Some days you step in it ............... some days you don't.
nitpik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 16:36   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: PNW
Boat: Tayana 37
Posts: 42
Re: What is a " spare man"

Used to be quite a common term when was working on cargo ships, referred to a roller mounted on a pedestal. Sometimes also referred to as a "Noddy Head"... dont know why..
Ancient.Mariner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 18:23   #14
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back in Northern California working on the Ranch
Boat: Pearson 365 Sloop and 9' Fatty Knees.
Posts: 10,469
Images: 5
Re: What is a " spare man"

I thought it was something my spare (ex) wife had.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 18:44   #15
Senior Cruiser
 
hpeer's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,567
Re: What is a " spare man"

Quote:
Originally Posted by nitpik View Post
I believe the term "spare man" refers to a guide/bracket about anchor shank length behind the primary bow roller. It guides the chain and then the anchor shank as you retrieve the anchor, and forms a resting place for the shank up off the deck. The spare man may have a roller fitted, and usually the shank is lashed to this fitting to keep the anchor secure in a seaway.
OK, that makes sense.

Kinda like a longish bow roller fitting.

Thanks.
hpeer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 21:44.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.