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Old 09-08-2019, 16:34   #61
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Re: Roller furler keeps wrapping around forestay

As a career sailmaker of nearly 50 years you have a classic halyard wrap issue and it's very dangerous because it can easily cut your forestay then the only thing holding your mast up is your sail!
OK under NO circumstances spray WD 40 (or similar) into any part of the furler it makes it worse not better as it attracts and holds salt.
Your problem is the angle between the forestay and halyard is too similar i.e. parallel; the halyard must form a Y so the circumference the halyard needs to turn is much larger for the halyard to wrap around the forestay. Very carefully unfurl the headsail and lower it making sure it's not holding your mast up.
Then near the top of the mast run your halyard underneath a bail (SS band) riveted to the mast to deflect the halyard so it's much wider than the current angle. You may need to lower the mast to achieve this (or climb it).
If you feel the head swivel or bottom drum is not running smoothly flush as much water through it as you possibly can. If you still feel the need to spray something into it use Ronstan Sail lube (or similar) Never use WD 40 or CRC as the bearing races are NOT the same as cars.
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I'm the one who pm'ed the OP. GILow is right.
We tried mate, but nobody is actually reading the thread properly.

Thank you for finding out the REAL situation and sharing.
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Old 09-08-2019, 17:08   #63
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We tried mate, but nobody is actually reading the thread properly.

Thank you for finding out the REAL situation and sharing.
It would appear that the OP has tucked his tail between his legs and legged it.
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Old 09-08-2019, 19:07   #64
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It would appear that the OP has tucked his tail between his legs and legged it.
Or they are currently twisted up between their furler and forestay calling weakly for help.
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:53   #65
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Re: Roller furler keeps wrapping around forestay

I have the same furler, small CDI, on our Rhodes 22 continental. The forestay on mine, which is heavier than the other stays, runs up the middle of the foil, no separate forestay, although it's a stay-supported mast so there are 8 other stays and two inner stays are attached forward of the mast and hold it up while I'm attaching or messing with the furler.

Here's a couple pics of how its rigged, sorry I dont have a better shot of the furler arrangement. I agree you should have a trigger look at it, your mast might need more support.

Also, next time you are out, try keeping a little tension on the furling line and the sheets as you pull out the jib, dont just let it flop out. I have a big 170% Genoa, we need to keep it under control when we unfurl it or it will all run out and we'll be swimming, lol.
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Re: Roller furler keeps wrapping around forestay

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As a career sailmaker of nearly 50 years you have a classic halyard wrap issue and it's very dangerous because it can easily cut your forestay then the only thing holding your mast up is your sail!
OK under NO circumstances spray WD 40 (or similar) into any part of the furler it makes it worse not better as it attracts and holds salt.
Your problem is the angle between the forestay and halyard is too similar i.e. parallel; the halyard must form a Y so the circumference the halyard needs to turn is much larger for the halyard to wrap around the forestay. Very carefully unfurl the headsail and lower it making sure it's not holding your mast up.
Then near the top of the mast run your halyard underneath a bail (SS band) riveted to the mast to deflect the halyard so it's much wider than the current angle. You may need to lower the mast to achieve this (or climb it).
If you feel the head swivel or bottom drum is not running smoothly flush as much water through it as you possibly can. If you still feel the need to spray something into it use Ronstan Sail lube (or similar) Never use WD 40 or CRC as the bearing races are NOT the same as cars.


As a career sailmaker of 50 years, you should go back and look at the photos again.
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Re: Roller furler keeps wrapping around forestay

This does look like a CDI flexible furler, which on a Catalina 22 requires a different headstay, which fits inside the furler drum and its foil. Contact CDI or Catalina Direct to find this headstay. Once installed properly they work great, but you also need to lead the furling line properly for it to work smoothly. See the directions.
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Re: Roller furler keeps wrapping around forestay

Some great and not so great explanations. Start with studying the CDI instructions. Next find a rigger to help with the rerigging process, as this furler is not correctly installed, you will learn a lot. This will be money well spent and will add to your confidence in yourself as well as the boat. Some of the advice offered here does not apply to your size boat, such as double headstays.
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Some great and not so great explanations. Start with studying the CDI instructions. Next find a rigger to help with the rerigging process, as this furler is not correctly installed, you will learn a lot. This will be money well spent and will add to your confidence in yourself as well as the boat. Some of the advice offered here does not apply to your size boat, such as double headstays.


Double head stays are an option for any sized boat.

But you need to read the whole thread to see that the real problem was the OP added that extra forestay themselves.
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