Missing stays?

[SV Aquavit]

See the red lines in the attached image.

How critical are the missing stays?

I assume they help keep that section of the mast in column port/starboard.

But given the jib and spinnaker are attached to the masthead, are there significant forces affecting that section of the mast?

[Bill O]

Single spreaders? (you should not need the intermediate if single spreaders).

Did they try to do a stays'l/inner stay? If so, those tangs are most likely for running back stays.

[SV Aquavit]

Originally Posted by Bill O

Single spreaders? (you should not need the intermediate if single spreaders).

Did they try to do a stays'l/inner stay? If so, those tangs are most likely for running back stays.

> Single spreaders?


Yes


> Did they try to do a stays'l/inner stay?



No evidence of that


Just strange that the fittings are there. I even came across what appears to be the cables that were there.


Oh well... less weight aloft without them.

[cal40john]

A previous owner did that to my boat. Story I heard was that the thin wall mast used on the boat could sag a little and was a detriment to racing performance. Never heard for my boat that it was a safety issue.

I always wondered if the increased drag with the extra rigging was taken into consideration.

[Bill O]

Originally Posted by SV Aquavit

> Single spreaders?

Yes

> Did they try to do a stays'l/inner stay?

No evidence of that

Just strange that the fittings are there. I even came across what appears to be the cables that were there.

Oh well... less weight aloft without them.

Looked at several I38s on YW and didn't see those intermediates on any of them.

[Jim Cate]

FWIW, our Palmer Johnson Standfast 36 had similar stays on its single spreader rig. they terminated at the spreader tip. We replaced them when we re-rigged her, but don't know if they were crucial.

Jim

[barnakiel]

Depending on the properties of the mast extrusion.


Is this a tapered mast or only looks so in this perspective?


barnakiel

[SV Aquavit]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

Depending on the properties of the mast extrusion.


Is this a tapered mast or only looks so in this perspective?


barnakiel

Yes, it's tapered.

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by SV Aquavit

Yes, it's tapered.

Hence the extras.


b.

[Manateeman]

Barnie has a good eye. Go get the book Principles of Yacht Design or any text you like. Get the moms on the spar. Do the math. Post for elves and trolls.
Pay a rigger to explain.
All of above or none or some.
Everybody here is an expert.
Good luck.
M.

[GILow]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

FWIW, our Palmer Johnson Standfast 36 had similar stays on its single spreader rig. they terminated at the spreader tip. We replaced them when we re-rigged her, but don't know if they were crucial.

Jim

So... just to be clear... this was a DIFFERENT boat to the one where the mast fell off... right? [emoji846]

Seems reasonable to check.