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Old 27-01-2021, 05:01   #46
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

If you install a mechanical windlass which uses a standard winch handle for cranking in the anchor rode, then you could utilize an electric winch drill in place of the handle to do the cranking for you.

There are battery operated winch drills available on the market. ( https://www.ewincher.com/en/​ ).

Or you could make your own adapter and use a right angle Milwaukee drill as described...

You could also use the same to tension halyards / sheets as well.
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

More info for using a drill to crank a winch / mechanical windlass:

YouTube: Guy in Boston using a Makita drill with adapter:

Winch adapter: https://www.thecranker.com

Another Winch adapter: https://www.velasailingsupply.com/ha...drill-adapter/
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

Thanks, unfortunately the standart winches do not allow a chain gipsy, otherwise it's a good idea.

Regarding the drill, the ewincher seems overpriced, but still it is good to mention it as option.
For the anchor it would definitely need something like the Milwaukee angle drill.
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More info for using a drill to crank a winch / mechanical windlass:

YouTube: Guy in Boston using a Makita drill with adapter:

Winch adapter: https://www.thecranker.com

Another Winch adapter: https://www.velasailingsupply.com/ha...drill-adapter/
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

I didnít read all of these post so if this reflects another I apologize.
A 1/2 inch drill has a ton of torque and if it binds up it could easily break you wrist , crush fingers etc before you let go of it.
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

Thanks.

In any case this is only to be used to pull the anchor up once it's free. Definitely not to pull the boat or break the anchor out. That should never be done by a windlass in any case.

The fix would be a simple bracket where it can rest. Btw. the Milwaukee has a slip clutch if it's overloaded.

Still, as mentioned above it's not certain it would work at the moment I am looking at potentially abandoning the idea.
98% of the manual windlasses are not suitable because they are not driven along the center axis.

There are two by Muir though which might work. I am checking with them.
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I didnít read all of these post so if this reflects another I apologize.
A 1/2 inch drill has a ton of torque and if it binds up it could easily break you wrist , crush fingers etc before you let go of it.
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

I agree with Jim. We have an older Muir Atlantic windlass and the center socket is the clutch for free fall lowering and tightening up for retrieval. The offset socket is for manually raising the anchor/chain with a winch handle.

Of note is that the pawls need to be placed correctly in the carrier (they can go one of 2 ways), to allow manual retrieval while not engaging the gearbox.

You could, I guess, just raise the chain by running the drill on the center shaft, but this works on just the clutch and could result in over tightening or damage to it. Not recommended by Muir in any case.

They may have different models now with the center socket able to raise manually; I haven't kept up on the latest offerings.
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

I suspect that, even on low-gear, it won't have the torque. Look for gearmotors from surplus warehouses, or eBay
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

Actually it's got 136Nm torque. That's quite a lot.
Remember all we want is to lift at max 16kg anchor & 50m of 8mm chain.

You can easily lift a 65kg person up to the top of a 20m mast with it.

No boat pulling. To break the anchor loose, we run over it with a short chain. If that does not suffice, we could try the manual handle, but that unlikely to be better.

Once it's loose use the Millie to lift it. At least that is the basic idea...
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Slightly off topic. If you plan to lift someone up the mast using the Milwaukee drill I could not lift a 180lb man up the mast with a single speed a winch

No, the Milwaukee M28 drill I think works best with two speed winchs. Even at slow speed it's too fast for a single speed winch. All (3) of my winches are two-speed and the drill is wonderful - but it has to be run in reverse to get the winch low speed which causes the chuck to loosen and the winch bit to fall out every once in a while. I'm sure it's going to go overboard one of these times.

Does anyone have a solution to THAT problem? I really don't want to epoxy the bit into the chuck as I occasionally use the M28 as a drill.
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I didnít read all of these post so if this reflects another I apologize.
A 1/2 inch drill has a ton of torque and if it binds up it could easily break you wrist , crush fingers etc before you let go of it.

Yup. I can attest to that. You have to be really careful.
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

Since the topic has come up, I've used both the 28 volt and 18 volt (super hawg) versions of the Milwaukee right angle drill, usually just to power my main halyard winch. The 28 volt version was excellent, but if you are not careful you can break a small set screw in the chuck if you run it in reverse under load. I sold it and purchased the 18 volt version because almost all my other Milwaukee tools run on 18 volt batteries, and no others ran on 28 volt batteries. I saw no difference what so ever in power with the 18 volt tool and it doesn't have the problem with the set screw in the chuck. It is heavy, so I use the 5 ah batteries instead of the larger ones to keep the weight down. Both are fantastic tools.Milwaukee also has a regular drill with equivalent torque, but I would be really leery of the injury this could cause if you tried to apply that degree of torque without the lever arm of the larger tool.
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

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No, the Milwaukee M28 drill I think works best with two speed winchs. Even at slow speed it's too fast for a single speed winch. All (3) of my winches are two-speed and the drill is wonderful - but it has to be run in reverse to get the winch low speed which causes the chuck to loosen and the winch bit to fall out every once in a while. I'm sure it's going to go overboard one of these times.

Does anyone have a solution to THAT problem? I really don't want to epoxy the bit into the chuck as I occasionally use the M28 as a drill.
Solution is to use a winch drive that goes into the chuck, and to put the chuck onto the spindle with loc-tite. I did the loc-tite trick about six years ago, after breaking several of the bloody 1/4-20 LEFT HAND cap screws, and have not had further problems, and I use it under heavy load in both directions.

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Solution is to use a winch drive that goes into the chuck, and to put the chuck onto the spindle with loc-tite. I did the loc-tite trick about six years ago, after breaking several of the bloody 1/4-20 LEFT HAND cap screws, and have not had further problems, and I use it under heavy load in both directions.

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Thanks Jim. I'll give it a try.
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

We use the Milw.Super Hawg 18V with a 4Ah battery. I bought a crank from theCranker.com and I modified it to fit the head of the machine instead of the original drill holder. Pay attention, the thread of the centre bold is right so to screw it out you turn right ! Advantage of this set up is that the machine is closer tot the winch. If you do not pay attention you break your sheets as once happened. We also have the smaller model for the mainsheetwinch. Under heavy loads it hasn't enough power. But the big one... be aware. Winches are lewmar 65 for a 49 sqm high aspect.
First we had the small cranker, pict d. To light and due to metal stress it bends under heavy loads after a while.
The big one is my spare should the anchor winch fail. It easily pulls the the boat (20ton) forward to the anchor and pulls it up. (Rocna 33 kg with 100 m chain 10 mm)
This Milwaukee is the most powerful on the market. Never use a normal drill, I tried it all out and it is dangerous due to the small force arm.
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Re: Milwaukee Right Angle Drill as anchor winch?

There are also dedicated electric winch handles available, but you left one item off your list of uses which they don't fulfill, ie drilling.
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