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26-05-2022, 02:25
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Boat: Contest 50CS
Posts: 51
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Main sheet twist between the traveller and the boom
When I rig the main sheet in the spring the sheet is fine but as the season progresses the sheet twists itself on the vertical portion between the traveller and the boom. To resolve the issue, I have to remove the sheet and untwist accumulated twist. Is there any way to prevent this from occurring in the first place? Thanks for all your input!
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26-05-2022, 03:19
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Little Compton, RI
Boat: Cape George 31
Posts: 2,278
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
If you trim it with a winch, that will induce a twist that eventually travels up along the rope.
Nothing to do but unreeve and untwist from time to time, if you can't dispense with the winch.
If you don't have a winch already, it may be that the rope had residual twist from being unspooled wrong initially. If you've baked it in by heaving hard on the line under tension it may never come out, as some strands may have been pulled harder than others and settled in that way.
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26-05-2022, 03:44
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
Boat: FP Belize Maestro 43 and OPBs
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benz
If you trim it with a winch, that will induce a twist that eventually travels up along the rope.
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This. Also if you coil the sheet when it is not in use, you are again putting twist in it. You should shake out the twists and flake the running part when prepping your lines.
https://www.animatedknots.com/figure-8-flake-knot
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26-05-2022, 04:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Port adelaide south australia
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Check if the top block has a position lock ,to stop the top block from rotating and twisting the sheet ,commonly done on free rotating blocks ⛵️⚓️
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26-05-2022, 06:27
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
If you take all the twist out the sheet, and don't coil it like everyone keeps doing in a beautiful circle, but rather coil / flake it in figure 8, it doesn't happen. The moment you start flaking the line in a circle, you introduce a twist, and that twist is never taken out fully before the line is fed into the sheeting system. The result is the twist travels down line and eventually ends up twisting the blocks.
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26-05-2022, 06:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 113
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Mine does the same thing. I use double braid sheet a three part block and tackle. No winch but do run it though a cam lock. I have re rove it left to right and right to left and-it still gets a twist. It doesn’t seem to really hurt any thing but I don’t like it. If I take the block off the sail and flip it down though the falls I can get most of the twist out. There will always be a half twist left. I have never totally figured it out.
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26-05-2022, 07:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Boat: Farr 43`
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Reeve the fall with a half twist.
If the fall goes full twist reeve again with the opposite crossover..
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26-05-2022, 09:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North East USA
Boat: 1975 Tartan 41'
Posts: 1,027
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Modify / change the block to a non-rotating block so it can't twist
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26-05-2022, 11:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Boat: 1979 Mariner Ketch 32-Hull 202
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benz
If you trim it with a winch, that will induce a twist that eventually travels up along the rope.
Nothing to do but unreeve and untwist from time to time, if you can't dispense with the winch.
If you don't have a winch already, it may be that the rope had residual twist from being unspooled wrong initially. If you've baked it in by heaving hard on the line under tension it may never come out, as some strands may have been pulled harder than others and settled in that way.
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I do not know anyone that sheets in or trims a mail sail with a winch.
A Camcleat is usually the way a main sheet is trimmed on a traveler.
The twist may be rectified with swivel block, at the boom end.
Boatyarddog
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26-05-2022, 11:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,508
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
"Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom"
“New Full Cell. Does it change the math?”
Can you people please proofread your posts.
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26-05-2022, 12:03
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 49
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatyarddog
I do not know anyone that sheets in or trims a mail sail with a winch.
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Mainsheet to a winch is very common with cabin-top travelers.
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26-05-2022, 12:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Boat: 1979 Mariner Ketch 32-Hull 202
Posts: 1,997
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisOwens
Mainsheet to a winch is very common with cabin-top travelers.
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Not very efficiently, but I agree.
However this not a cabin top traveler.
Boatyarddog
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26-05-2022, 12:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Florida
Boat: Swallow Craft, Swift 33
Posts: 211
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Terminate the sheet with a swivel. Worked for me.
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26-05-2022, 13:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seabrook, TX
Boat: Catalina 30
Posts: 251
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Searles
Check if the top block has a position lock ,to stop the top block from rotating and twisting the sheet ,commonly done on free rotating blocks ⛵️⚓️
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Ditto this.
It would be a setscrew, most likely requiring an Allen wrench.
Do not overtighten.
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26-05-2022, 19:20
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Australia
Boat: Wauquiez Pilot Saloon 40
Posts: 40
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Re: Main sheet we tween the traveller and the boom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatyarddog
I do not know anyone that sheets in or trims a mail sail with a winch.
A Camcleat is usually the way a main sheet is trimmed on a traveler.
The twist may be rectified with swivel block, at the boom end.
Boatyarddog
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Did I miss something in the post?
Try sheeting on a main sheet on a 40 foot yacht in 25 knots of breeze without a winch.
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