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02-05-2016, 14:04
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#46
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
Please skip the "trick" stuff, such as halyards and topping lift leads to the cockpit. Avoid expense and clutter in the cockpit..
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02-05-2016, 14:25
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
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Originally Posted by KISS
You, Sir, lack imagination..
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How about beer. I don't like the hard stuff. Maybe a keg with s plumbed tap.
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02-05-2016, 14:35
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#48
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
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Originally Posted by Cadence
How about beer. I don't like the hard stuff. Maybe a keg with s plumbed tap.
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...and good baffles, unless you like foam.
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02-05-2016, 14:47
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#49
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always in motion is the future
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cadence
How about beer. I don't like the hard stuff. Maybe a keg with s plumbed tap.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KISS
...and good baffles, unless you like foam.
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I recommend you gentlemen first get a boat before posting your OT BS
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02-05-2016, 15:42
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#50
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 321
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
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Originally Posted by s/v Jedi
I recommend you gentlemen first get a boat before posting your OT BS
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I recommend you grow a sense of humor.
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-- Seneca
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02-05-2016, 15:44
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#51
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Boat: Pearson Countess 44
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
As I've aged and suffered some of the loss of agility of aging I seriously thought of leading all my control lines aft to the cockpit. I've ended up kind of overwhelmed by the thought of all that spaghetti back in the cockpit.
I've done what I think of as a compromise solution, adding a mast pulpit, interior 3 foot high solid railing and 3 foot high solid rails at the outboard deck edge. I admit that this won't keep me from having to go forward occasionally in inclement weather but I'm trying to grow into a fair weather sailor anyway.
And when I do end up at the mast I hope to feel a lot more comfortable about it.
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02-05-2016, 15:44
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#52
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marina del Rey, California
Boat: President 43 Sportfish
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
Jedi--good post.
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02-05-2016, 15:52
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#53
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
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Originally Posted by sailor1924
As I've aged and suffered some of the loss of agility of aging I seriously thought of leading all my control lines aft to the cockpit. I've ended up kind of overwhelmed by the thought of all that spaghetti back in the cockpit.
I've done what I think of as a compromise solution, adding a mast pulpit, interior 3 foot high solid railing and 3 foot high solid rails at the outboard deck edge. I admit that this won't keep me from having to go forward occasionally in inclement weather but I'm trying to grow into a fair weather sailor anyway.
And when I do end up at the mast I hope to feel a lot more comfortable about it.
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What do you think about granny bars?
Seems like a good option for anybody, regardless of age/condition.
The only issue I can see is space.
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02-05-2016, 16:13
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#54
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,206
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
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Originally Posted by s/v Jedi
I recommend you gentlemen first get a boat before posting your OT BS
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Lighten up. I don't know about him, I have probably had more boats than you.
It is all in fun no sense in turning it into a pissing contest.
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02-05-2016, 17:12
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: O'Day 28
Posts: 3,922
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
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Originally Posted by Cadence
Lighten up. I don't know about him, I have probably had more boats than you.
It is all in fun no sense in turning it into a pissing contest.
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Bilgewater and battery acid! How in the world could you know that? Lemme tell you something, son: My nephew, Menelaus Crab, lost his wife to an evil suitor near Paris, Texas. Menelaus begged me to send as many ships as possible to retrieve her. All I had was a thousand on hand in the Gulf, and so many worldwide I need a computer to track 'em. Now, ya had more than me?
Of course you have ... had. And you, Captain, have entered the contest.
The noob got nailed, and correctly so.
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02-05-2016, 20:25
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#56
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 105
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
I agree with Jedi, except that 'dirt dweller' should be spelled L.U.B.B.E.R. And as for it being safer to control the whole shebang from the cockpit: Rudy Choy famously said, "you don't go to sea to be safe". Perhaps it is safer to control the TV with a remote from the couch.
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02-05-2016, 21:20
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#57
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlantic ICW 29N/81W
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 36CC, now sold
Posts: 823
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
This thread has deteriorated into an unpleasant pissing contest, I'm out of here for pastures more pleasant.
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02-05-2016, 22:29
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Boat: Pearson Countess 44
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
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Originally Posted by KISS
What do you think about granny bars?
Seems like a good option for anybody, regardless of age/condition.
The only issue I can see is space.
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I'm not sure what you are calling granny bars. If you mean a railing near the mast, that is what I refer to as a mast pulpit.
As to space my deck is 11'6" at the mast so I can have a corridor passing the mast and the enclosure with out too much narrowing at the shrouds. My side decks at the raised deck house are 18" wide so it's a comfortable enclosure moving forward. The mast pulpit goes athwartship and forms another 2'+ railing corridor with the athwartship rail at the forward end of the pilothouse. The only places where there are no center rail is forward of the mast to the bow and the cockpit which has the mizzen centerline and the bimini supports to grab.
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03-05-2016, 04:34
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#59
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: O'Day 28
Posts: 3,922
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
I hadn't heard the term "granny bars." Guess I don't spend enough time at the yot clubbe bar.
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03-05-2016, 10:56
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#60
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 184
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Re: Lines Led Aft - Is It Really An Improvement?
I know a corcumnavigator who always has his boat "hove to"for reefing. Seems like a good idea.
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