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11-04-2010, 04:38
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#46
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weedeater64
I seem to remember reading somewhere that oil burning anchor lights are no longer allowed.
Is that right? Did they pass a law requiring electric lights?
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Rule 30 (b) says: A vessel of less than 50 metres in length may exhibit an all-round white light where it can best be seen instead of the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule.
End of rule.
So it can be whatever you like> Hurricane lantern is fine And don't have to be up the top of the mast. In deed up the top of the mast may contrevene the rule: where it can best be seen.
"Non-electric lights shall so far as practicable comply with the minimum intensities, as specified in the table given in section 8 of this Annex."
"(b) (i) All-round lights shall be so located as not to be obscured by masts, topmasts or structures within angular sectors of more than 6 degrees, except anchor lights prescribed in Rule 30, which need not be placed at an impracticable height above the hull.
(ii) If it is impracticable to comply with paragraph (b)(i) of this section by exhibiting only one all-round light, two all-round lights shall be used suitably positioned or screened so that they appear, as far as practicable, as one light at a distance of one mile."
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11-04-2010, 04:42
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#47
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Albro359
if you comply, you're OK, if you don't comply, you're not OK...simple
I'm sure even you can understand that !
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I can understand what you are saying. But you, nor I, are the judge of compliance
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11-04-2010, 06:21
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#48
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cruiser
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Probably in an anchorage or a boatyard..
Boat: Ebbtide 33' steel cutter
Posts: 5,030
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regs / reality
Quote:
Originally Posted by Albro359
MarkJ
I've had enough of this BS discussion..the regs are the regs...if you don't like em, then get on the authority that makes these decisions and change it...o'wise, if you comply, you're OK, if you don't comply, you're not OK...simple
I'm sure even you can understand that !
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Now this I always find interesting and a dilemma. Do you comply with the col regs and have your anchor light at the top of the mast, running the risk of being rammed at night cos in a busy anchorage it´s next to useless as it is too high up. Or have the light lower down where it will be seen and run the risk of being sued. Both seems the best idea.
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11-04-2010, 06:25
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#49
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: In transit. Currently in the Caribbean.
Boat: s/v Zero To Cruising. PDQ 32 Altair Classic Catamaran
Posts: 81
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I didn't mention this when I posted about the Owl earlier but I installed the Owl light from Bebi at the top of our mast and also acquired one of their Lulu Kaukaua lights to be hung closer to the deck. The energy draw on both those LEDs is still way less than the other light that we had.
LED Anchor Light-Waterproof & Rugged for Marine RV and Offgrid Use
Mike
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11-04-2010, 07:37
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#50
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Camden, ME
Boat: A Thistle and a Hallberg-Rassy 36
Posts: 848
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I replaced my Davis string-up anchor light BA-9 bulbs with replacement LED modules form SUPER BRIGHT LEDS - LED Lights & Accessories. They are much brighter and draw a bit less power (80 milliamps) than the original incandescent bulbs. I actually have two, in one I put an amber LED module, and the other a white.
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11-04-2010, 07:43
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#51
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Florida Keys
Boat: Corsair F31"Susan C" & Sea Pearl 21"Maggie"
Posts: 262
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I use a Dr LED replacement in an Aqua Signal series 40 hoistable light in the fore triangle about 30 ft off the water. Too many close calls when at the masthead which is 50ft off the water. No problems to date with law enforcement, in Florida they seem happy that I have any light at all. Dave
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11-04-2010, 08:33
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#52
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Boat: Looking for a new boat
Posts: 2,571
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Albro359
MarkJ
I've had enough of this BS discussion..the regs are the regs...if you don't like em, then get on the authority that makes these decisions and change it...o'wise, if you comply, you're OK, if you don't comply, you're not OK...simple
I'm sure even you can understand that !
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Easy there killer, things are getting a little hot considering we are just talking about light bulbs.
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11-04-2010, 14:39
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#53
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Boat: Pearson 281
Posts: 684
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I bought the ORCA masthead w solinoid last year on a vendors discount, mounted it just recently, put the stick back up checked and it shown very nicely. Went to the chandler's and flipping through a Practical Sailor saw that it was the worst rated for radio interference... aw dang it... went back to the boat and sure enough plenty of static. I had to set the squelch threshold way up. Something to keep in mind when shopping led mastheads.
BTW... can anyone recommend a DIY sheilding option that might counteract the interference?
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11-04-2010, 15:08
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#54
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֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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Seems like a lot of folks could answer their own fears by just downloading a copy of COLREGS. Yes, it is that easy, you don't even have to buy the printed version any more.
And you'd find that there's no regulation against EXCEEDING the Colregs minimum requirements for equipment, which means a cheap investment in solar party lights to make the boat visible from the water close-up at night is perfectly legal, too. The same reason that commercial fisherman light up with (DUH!) sodium vapor "parking lot" lights. 100% legally.
What do you call a thousand lawyers wrapped in chains at the bottom of the sea?
>A good start.
What do you call a thousand lawyers in quick drying concrete up to their necks?
>A concrete shortage.
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11-04-2010, 16:31
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Princeton, NJ
Boat: Challenger Anacapa 42
Posts: 2,097
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
No boats gunna hit you with these lil flappers!!!!!!!
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Sorry Mark, whenever I see a bunch of glow in the dark dragonflies, I always gun it right towards them, like a moth to a candle! Reminds me of Tinkerbell...
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11-04-2010, 20:32
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#56
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Boat: Looking for a new boat
Posts: 2,571
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My whole complaint with this whole odyssey - finding LED surrogates not just for my anchor light but every other light in my boat - has been to find a light that has the same footprint as a regular old BA15 bulb. (As you may have read in my other posts I have some really nice brass lights that I won't do away with) The Dr LED replacement bulbs are ridiculously bulky compared to a regular 1157. As per Mike's link ( LED Anchor Light-Waterproof & Rugged for Marine RV and Offgrid Use) it just seems like those BA15 replacements wouldn't even in the right direction.
I think the first guy to design a light that is the same body and bulb-head as BA15would be in business. Until then I am resigned to leave the rest of my incandescents in and just not sail much at night.
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12-04-2010, 15:06
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#57
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֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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I suspect there's no way to massage existing LED technology to replace a BA15 in the same size. Even if you used high-power emitters, in that tiny package there's no way to heat sink them without adding liquid cooling and a radiator. (G)
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12-04-2010, 15:46
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,438
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I used the dual pin seni blubs to replace the 1157 style with a cheap adapter that lookis like the base of the bulb
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12-04-2010, 17:09
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#59
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Boat: Looking for a new boat
Posts: 2,571
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Quote:
Originally Posted by motion30
I used the dual pin seni blubs to replace the 1157 style with a cheap adapter that lookis like the base of the bulb
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Can you show a link to that model?
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12-04-2010, 17:59
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#60
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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davis ind made one for 60 dollars lol..no stick! but i get the garden walkway lights from costco at a warehouse that sells their returns for only 4-6 dollars ..lol...my true anchor light in kerosene and antique with a fresnel lens and is visible for over 3 miles.
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