Jib Sheets - Quick Change.

[rgleason]

I am considering alternatives for upwind and off wind sheeting with a future blade jib (90%-85% LP).

Does anyone have a good technique/hardware/equipment at the clew which allows quick change of jib sheets from a close sheeting angle to a toerail position?

Of course the bowline would work well with separate sheets.

Tylaska Spool fittings Tylaska Marine Hardware - Mystic, CT are reasonably easy to disconnect, however the jib clew thimble/fitting would have to be larger or suited to allow two tylaska fittings to be connected at once before shifting loads.

Barberhaulers (outhaul and inhaul) have been considered, but the angles don't appear too good because the shrouds get in the way.

[Shawn67]

For easy headsail changes I used this setup.

H28 | Huia – R100

And it worked fine. Could use it if you had separate sheets for upwind and downwind.

Shawn

[rgleason]

Also found a Jlock from Tylaska Tylaska Marine Hardware - Mystic, CT
has anyone used them?

[alx]

I've been considering this too, and just leaving both sets of sheets attached at all times.

[rgleason]

Shawn:

For easy headsail changes I used this setup.
H28 | Huia – R100
And it worked fine. Could use it if you had separate sheets for upwind and downwind.

I like this idea and would definitely use it if it did not depend on a correctly size clew thimble, because I would like to be able to setup the outboard toerail sheet at the same time the inboard sheet is being used, for example.

[rgleason]

Yes another good idea.

...just leaving both sets of sheet attached at all times.

I wonder if there is anyone who has such a setup who can advise?

[Stumble]

While jib reaching I often trim both the inboard sheet and a barber haul. Works fine once you figure out the geometry. For attaching the sheets dyneema soft shackles. One shackle for all four sheets.

[rgleason]

From Dockhead:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post1821530

I unreeve the sheets and re-reeve them inside the shrouds going upwind, but I have not yet been able to achieve any better performance upwind than what I was getting with the sheets outside. I haven't studied it systematically, but max VMG to windwward seems to be at about 32 degrees (compared to 37 before), which is brilliant -- I will be tacking through 90 degrees or less, which was my dream goal for this sail and this rig. ... Part of the dramatic improvement in pointing is the behavior of the mainsail in partnership with the blade. There is no longer any "speed bubble", and I can put the traveller up above the centerline, and so get a lot of drive even at 30 to 32 degrees AWA. And this is my old baggy mainsail, too, which is just transformed in the air flow created by the blade.

Not so sure this would be the situation with our boat, I think the inside sheeting angle will definitely help, because our 140%LP genoa sheeting angle is 16 degrees and the blade sheeting angle will be much bigger if done from the toerail!

[rgleason]

STumble:

While jib reaching I often trim both the inboard sheet and a barber haul. Works fine once you figure out the geometry. For attaching the sheets dyneema soft shackles. One shackle for all four sheets.

Thank you. Looks like this is what I'll be doing now.

Dyneema Soft Shackle
OR

http://www.bethandevans.com/pdf/improvedsoftshackle.pdf

[thinwater]

Soft shackles. Been doing it that way for years.

Metal hardware on a genoa clew would be unacceptable to me if it were free. Deadly.

[Stumble]

I actually prefer Better Soft Shackle they are a little weaker, but I like the legless construction. Going up in size isn't exactly expensive.

I would never buy them, spend the 20 minutes it takes to learn to make them, and then they cost about $1 a piece.