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31-07-2019, 11:50
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#301
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
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Originally Posted by Lynette Evans
Slugs fit within bolt rope track.
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Does this mean you're going to use the foil inside to mast to hoist the sail?
I'm curious because a friend an I have had several conversation about converting a in mast furling mast to a more conventional setup.
we've imagined removing the internal furler and somehow closing the slot in the mast with a sail track.
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31-07-2019, 12:19
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#302
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Location: Wilmington DE
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
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Originally Posted by guyrj33
Does this mean you're going to use the foil inside to mast to hoist the sail?
I'm curious because a friend an I have had several conversation about converting a in mast furling mast to a more conventional setup.
we've imagined removing the internal furler and somehow closing the slot in the mast with a sail track.
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Can't speak for their situation, but the profile of the sail slot in my Charleston Spar seems to not have enough flat to mount a substantial slug track.
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31-07-2019, 12:38
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#303
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
Pretty much all im mast and behind the mast furling systems have a recess, sometimes two even, for you to mount a sail using regular slugs.
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31-07-2019, 13:07
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#304
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
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Originally Posted by mikedefieslife
Pretty much all im mast and behind the mast furling systems have a recess, sometimes two even, for you to mount a sail using regular slugs.
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Outside the extrusion cavity facing aft and to one side of the sail slot there is a build up of metal which I believe has been welded onto the spar. It is a slot running the length of the spar.
Hmmm
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31-07-2019, 13:19
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#305
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Location: Australia
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
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Originally Posted by mikedefieslife
Pretty much all im mast and behind the mast furling systems have a recess, sometimes two even, for you to mount a sail using regular slugs.
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My C470 has a slot to mount normal main, it's a Sparcraft rig supplied by Charlston spars.
Another C470 owner did just that, ran a tides marine strong track up that slot and converted to a traditional batterned main.
The interesting part is he kept all the furling gear in place and is now converting back, he misses the ease and convenience of the inmast furler. He believes the IMF is better suited for fulltime than a traditional main. As a side note he comes from a racing background.
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31-07-2019, 13:38
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#306
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
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Originally Posted by daletournier
My C470 has a slot to mount normal main, it's a Sparcraft rig supplied by Charlston spars.
Another C470 owner did just that, ran a tides marine strong track up that slot and converted to a traditional batterned main.
The interesting part is he kept all the furling gear in place and is now converting back, he misses the ease and convenience of the inmast furler. He believes the IMF is better suited for fulltime than a traditional main. As a side note he comes from a racing background.
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Good info!!
Once a year the track is observed, pondered about and dismissed due to building headache due the pondering.
Nothing beats the satisfaction of the marina acing themselves out of an invoice due to what may be nothing other than predatory behavior. Gold star to Lynette
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31-07-2019, 16:17
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#307
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
I mainly thought the track was for a tri-sail. I would hate to raise a sail that is attached by slugs, the friction must be horrendous.
If you were to convert, you can't just leave the foil in place as it rattles around inside the mast and makes a hell of a noise.
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31-07-2019, 16:21
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#308
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
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Originally Posted by mikedefieslife
I mainly thought the track was for a tri-sail. I would hate to raise a sail that is attached by slugs, the friction must be horrendous.
If you were to convert, you can't just leave the foil in place as it rattles around inside the mast and makes a hell of a noise.
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This particular bloke left the foil and everything in place, I'm not sure what he did to insure it didn't bang around, I agree it would make a terrible racket as it's free floating at the top. He obviously solved it some how.
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31-07-2019, 16:56
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#309
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Wilmington DE
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
[QUOTE=daletournier;2943286]This particular bloke left the foil and everything in place, I'm not sure what he did to insure it didn't bang around, I agree it would make a terrible racket as it's free floating at the top. He obviously solved it some how.[/QUOTE
I'm familiar with the Charleston spar, once the sail comes off (prep for winter storage) I raise the swivel after attaching a tether down to the boom. Even with significant halyard tension against the tether the foil still wants to bang.
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31-07-2019, 16:59
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#310
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Location: Australia
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
[QUOTE=nilespf;2943307]
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Originally Posted by daletournier
This particular bloke left the foil and everything in place, I'm not sure what he did to insure it didn't bang around, I agree it would make a terrible racket as it's free floating at the top. He obviously solved it some how.[/QUOTE
I'm familiar with the Charleston spar, once the sail comes off (prep for winter storage) I raise the swivel after attaching a tether down to the boom. Even with significant halyard tension against the tether the foil still wants to bang.
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I agree, I'm not sure what he did to solve that problem. Hes sailed with the batterned main for years therefore he must of done something.
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01-08-2019, 10:17
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#311
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Re: In-mast vs in-boom furling
I don't know about Sparcraft, but Selden furling masts have an external track which is specifically for a trysail. It doesn't go all the way up so couldn't be used for a normal mainsail.
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Originally Posted by nilespf
Good info!!
Once a year the track is observed, pondered about and dismissed due to building headache due the pondering.
Nothing beats the satisfaction of the marina acing themselves out of an invoice due to what may be nothing other than predatory behavior. Gold star to Lynette
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