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06-06-2021, 11:26
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
Posts: 12,120
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by GILow
Hi all,
For the last ten years I’ve lived with this halyard winch, knowing full well it is a murderous bastard just itching to kill me in one of a dozen ways.
I’ve worked around the worst of the problems related to handles flying off and breaking limbs, noses, faces etc by religiously keeping the handle out of the winch at all times.
So, therefore, when it managed to drag my finger into the mechanism the other night I couldn’t reach the handle to wind it back.
Thankfully the admiral is calm under pressure and a qualified nurse, so she was able to come and extract me before staunching the worst of the bleeding.
The jury is out on whether I’ll lose my fingernail, but there’s no doubt I’ll have an impressive scar. Cleaning up the blood from around the boat will take a while too.
Anyway, this a call to any of us who, like me, have been intending to replace these winches to do it now. It may have taken ten years, but it finally got me, don’t let yours get you too. Attachment 239745
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Wish you were closer I would love to melt it down and cast a cleat or chocks for your boat out of that bronze.
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06-06-2021, 14:59
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#62
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
Boat: Swanson 42 & Kelly Peterson 44
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by newhaul
Wish you were closer I would love to melt it down and cast a cleat or chocks for your boat out of that bronze.
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I like your thinking!
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06-06-2021, 15:04
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by GILow
I like your thinking!
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Signaling cannon?
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06-06-2021, 15:06
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Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by Dockhead
Ha, ha. I wish.
All my running rigging is racing grade dyneema double braid, mostly Marlowe. It's lovely to handle and sail trimming is so much enhanced by the lack of stretch.
I also use a lot of single-braid dyneema on board. I bought a ton of it to make a Jordan Series Drogue before my trip to the Arctic a couple of years ago. Or not dyneema, but a nearly identical HMWPE cordage called Acera Amundesen, which our SeaworthyLass, CF's head mistress of knots and cordage, discovered and turned me on to. At about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of dyneema.
Let us know how you get on. Are you planning to commit the old winches to the deep?
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The winch may end up with a new owner as they have convinced me they have a safe way of using it. They just have to solve the postage problem.
As for rigging, I’ve converted some to dyneema. Running back stays were the first to go that way. I very nearly went for synthetic standing rigging too but I didn’t have the mental space for the necessary learning at the time.
One strand at a time. This particular winch is the last remaining wire halyard anyway, so that means no more wire after this next change.
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07-06-2021, 01:00
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by newhaul
Signaling cannon?
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Oh no, not another gun thread!
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07-06-2021, 01:00
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by StuM
BH may not know. He didn't join CF until a couple of years after the Rebel Heart fiasco.
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I think that may be the point...
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19-06-2021, 07:44
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Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by newhaul
Wish you were closer I would love to melt it down and cast a cleat or chocks for your boat out of that bronze.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GILow
I like your thinking!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newhaul
Signaling cannon?
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Yeah, yeah!
I can see it all now... a proper signalling canon to announce GILow's entrance into harbours all over the world with all the requisite pomp and circumstance...!
Now if we could only get him to put on his Admiral's regalia...
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19-06-2021, 15:16
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by LittleWing77
Yeah, yeah!
I can see it all now... a proper signalling canon to announce GILow's entrance into harbours all over the world with all the requisite pomp and circumstance...!
Now if we could only get him to put on his Admiral's regalia...
LittleWing77
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Yep, a signalling canon has some merit.
It will give people time to get clear. Did I mention that my manoeuvrability is little below average?
Given the Admiral on this boat is a nurse, I’m going to look just a little unorthodox.
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19-06-2021, 16:18
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
Thread closed pending moderator discussion.
Some posts from above have been edited; many have been deleted, mostly for quoting posts which themselves were deleted. The thread has been re-opened yesterday after preliminary deletions.
Ann
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20-06-2021, 07:21
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Location: New England. USA.
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
I would not be so sure that merely melting down and recasting a reel winch is capable of removing the inherent malevolence of those infernal machines.
Maybe sell it for scrap and give the money away….
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20-06-2021, 17:34
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
I don't know about making amends in this case. Perhaps the expense of purchasing the new winch is compensation enough? The frugal among us often don't like to replace what is at this point in time working for them....
And I'm very glad Jim had decided to ditch that winch. It is a good thing to know your pal or skipper has your best interests at heart.
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20-06-2021, 19:19
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
There is sort of a Murphy's Law thing in there, for me anyway: If something has bitten you once, it will do it again, and at the worst possible time. In my own case it was an old roller furler.
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20-06-2021, 19:30
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#73
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
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Re: Get rid of it before it gets you.
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Originally Posted by Don C L
There is sort of a Murphy's Law thing in there, for me anyway: If something has bitten you once, it will do it again, and at the worst possible time. In my own case it was an old roller furler.
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Could be your new spinnaker pole if you ever pick it up .
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