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Old 16-09-2020, 10:26   #1
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Does this jib seem right ? 1973 Ensenada 20

Title says it all folks. I had some trouble with my main ,incorrect sails came with the boat .
So my question to the massive twitching brains on this forum is .... is this jib the right size ? Also I don't seem to have anyway to attach to now chainplate there is an old rusty pulley on the turnbuckle . Does the foot of the jib attach directly or is there a length of line in between ? Click image for larger version

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Re: Does this jib seem right ? 1973 Ensenada 20

No, it looks small for the boat. Difficult perspective, but still, it's less than 100%. The luff is not long enough.

Glad to twitch, but I no longer do "massive."
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Re: Does this jib seem right ? 1973 Ensenada 20

All sailboats can have different size jibs, so NO it's not too small for the boat. Smaller jibs are used for heavier winds. That jib will be just fine for those conditions. Do you have others?
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Old 16-09-2020, 11:08   #4
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Re: Does this jib seem right ? 1973 Ensenada 20

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On my boat, there is a fitting *with two holes, one for forestay and another for the jib. If you have a minute, 'google' Enseneda 20 and look for the pages from sailboatdata.com and sailrite.com. You should see some pics too.

*Ps, bow plate or stem fitting
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The only photo on that site . I have a jib about that size I thought it was the Genoa maybe not though .I thought it was because it went behind the mast buttt I had it up the fore stay three feet or so accounting for the angle of the dangle maybe it would clear if it was attached down at the chain plate I'll check .Click image for larger version

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Bow plate it is
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Re: Does this jib seem right ? 1973 Ensenada 20

It wasn't built for the boat but it should work. It has a pendant, a length of wire or rope, attaching it to the bow there right? The good thing about it is you'll be able to see underneath it while you're sailing! I can't really see in the photo where the sheet, the rope pulling it back, is going to. I think there should be a block (pulley) attached to the deck behind the turnbuckles. On a boat that small you could probably sail it with a block attached to the base of the turnbuckle, though you didn't hear it from me!
Seriously, there should be a block for the sheet.
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Yes the other sails I have is an even smaller jib and a Genoa the one in the picture is the middle ground.
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It wasn't built for the boat but it should work. It has a pendant, a length of wire or rope, attaching it to the bow there right? The good thing about it is you'll be able to see underneath it while you're sailing! I can't really see in the photo where the sheet, the rope pulling it back, is going to. I think there should be a block (pulley) attached to the deck behind the turnbuckles. On a boat that small you could probably sail it with a block attached to the base of the turnbuckle, though you didn't hear it from me!
Seriously, there should be a block for the sheet.
There is a ancient block on forestay turn buckle . That line you see pictured is a bungee cord I just hooked up to see how the jibs looked . So if I replace the block up there what's the proper way to hoist this ?A ll the way up then a line running from the (cleft?) to a block then to a cleat ?
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Here are pictures of my bow plate:
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Would you happen to have a photo of what hooks the jib to the bow plate. My bowplate is very similar except I have like 4 holes
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Man I was in the what's the craziest thing you've seen floating by you thread on this forum for a hour . I was so captivated I let it get cold in the house lol . Sweet that's simple enough I have those very same shackles on my halyards. Now say I wanted to use my undersized jib because I have to . Would I be better off raising it as high as I can and having a line come to the bow plate or with it attached directly to the bow plate ?
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Thank you for the photos !
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Man I was in the what's the craziest thing you've seen floating by you thread on this forum for a hour . I was so captivated I let it get cold in the house lol . Sweet that's simple enough I have those very same shackles on my halyards. Now say I wanted to use my undersized jib because I have to . Would I be better off raising it as high as I can and having a line come to the bow plate or with it attached directly to the bow plate ?

Itís better to have the sail as low as possible to prevent excess heeling, so by that rule of thumb you should attach the shackle directly to the bow plate. But the sheet also has to have the right angle from the clew to the jib car, and this may mean that the jib should be raised up a bit. A short (6-12Ē) wire strop between the bow plate and the tack of the jib will work to raise the jib a bit but not as much as in your photo (thatís likely too high). Youíll need another shackle for the strop.
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