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18-07-2017, 03:31
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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18-07-2017, 04:14
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
How about a tiny, sliding Turk's Head, right next to the Cow Hitch? Maybe a 3 or 4 strand one.
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18-07-2017, 05:00
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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How about a tiny, sliding Turk's Head, right next to the Cow Hitch? Maybe a 3 or 4 strand one.
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What is a sliding Turk's head?
I still don't quite have a good grasp of some of the structures. Is the Double Lanyard a type of Turk's head? If it is #790, it looks like Ashley has woven it as a Turk's.
I am just trying one of those under the cow hitch and I will see if I can bury a few more strands in so I have something to work with.
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18-07-2017, 05:12
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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What is a sliding Turk's head?
I still don't quite have a good grasp of some of the structures. Is the Double Lanyard a type of Turk's head? If it is #790, it looks like Ashley has woven it as a Turk's.
I am just trying one of those under the cow hitch and I will see if I can bury a few more strands in so I have something to work with.
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Well UC will no doubt explain his meaning but in the meantime, it's a straightforward Turks head that can be slid along the lanyard just like one might slid a Turks Head over one's hand or along one's arm.
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18-07-2017, 05:31
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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Well UC will no doubt explain his meaning but in the meantime, it's a straightforward Turks head that can be slid along the lanyard just like one might slid a Turks Head over one's hand or along one's arm.
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Ah, you mean an entirely loose one, than is fed on the lanyard?
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18-07-2017, 05:40
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
I have tied a Double Lanyard (Diamond) near the cow hitch and inserted 2 lines doubled over, so now I have 6 to work with not 2.
I will weave a small section of Half Round Sinnet and a Matthew Walker (just because I really like those two ) and then I will try two lines of 3 strand crowns on top of each other.
I will join then with something, not sure what yet. The number of knots I am familiar with is still very limited. Any suggestions?
I am then stuck how to hide the ends of the 6 strands. How do I do this as invisibly as possible?
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18-07-2017, 05:41
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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Ah, you mean an entirely loose one, than is fed on the lanyard?
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but not too loose
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18-07-2017, 05:52
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
I made the same lanyard sampler; and yes, the star knot (my first!) was a bitch; much easier after you've made a few
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18-07-2017, 06:01
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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I made the same lanyard sampler; and yes, the star knot (my first!) was a bitch; much easier after you've made a few
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What made it worse for me was it was the first time I was following instructions via text. The diagrams helped, but not entirely. Most of my learning has been via Grog. In the end I found some helpful YouTubes. The Star knot (any number of points) is now a breeze.
I think understanding the basics first (such as what exactly a crown knot is) would have been very useful. I kind of dived in the deep end without that knowledge . It was an excellent training exercise though.
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18-07-2017, 10:57
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
Thanks for the fancy work, Seaworthy Lass, and the history on knot names! These posts are inspiring and are making me realize I shouldn't fret the outcome on the first attempts...
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18-07-2017, 11:29
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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Thanks for the fancy work, Seaworthy Lass, and the history on knot names! These posts are inspiring and are making me realize I shouldn't fret the outcome on the first attempts...
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You're welcome .
If ever you despair, go have a look at the first photo in this thread again.
It wasn't the only attempt that ended that way .
It is a rewarding thing to do though and it has lots of practical applications. As well, it keeps my hands busy of an evening while watching movies. I am about to settle down and finish that second lanyard for the camera.
I will record the best online directions if anyone would like to give these knots a go.
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18-07-2017, 12:08
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
I have spent some time hunting for online instructions. To my delight, I found although sailors are tending to abandon this skill/art, knot tying is alive and well amongst those using paracord for such things as lanyards, dog leashes and collars, belts, bracelets .........
Just Google "Paracord" and a whole heap of things come up.
My favourite instructions (simplest and clearest) are by a guy called Mark who presents YouTubes under the name of Paracord Guild. When I have struggled with written instructions and diagrams, he has instantly clarified things.
This is his video on how to tie a Multi strand Star Knot:
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18-07-2017, 12:16
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
I do like that star knot..
When I was in the service I tied a bunch of fancy work to the railing on the 82' I lived on for a spell.. I used a roll of the international orange and white strands and it turned out pretty nicely.. Then of course it became my job to do the others - what do they say no good deed goes unpunished.. Still it is relaxing to do.. flk k
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18-07-2017, 12:20
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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Well UC will no doubt explain his meaning but in the meantime, it's a straightforward Turks head that can be slid along the lanyard just like one might slid a Turks Head over one's hand or along one's arm.
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What he said.
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18-07-2017, 12:21
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Re: Confessions of a novice fancy worker
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I do like that star knot..
When I was in the service I tied a bunch of fancy work to the railing on the 82' I lived on for a spell.. I used a roll of the international orange and white strands and it turned out pretty nicely.. Then of course it became my job to do the others - what do they say no good deed goes unpunished.. Still it is relaxing to do.. flk k
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Do you have any favourites amongst the ones you tied? Also any combinations that work well together? I am searching for inspiration.
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