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Old 09-09-2023, 06:11   #496
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I have posted a link to that video weeks ago. I wrote it had the exact info you needed. I confirmed it was the same info as in the Dedekam book except they use 15% instead of 20% because itís a cat.

There are tools that measure tension by sideways deflection but they only go up to a certain size of wire, while the method of measuring stretch works for every size.

For the wiring strain relief: use some Dyneema chafe sleeve around the wire to hold it like a splice does (Chinese finger hold or what is it called). Pull the wire out the braid a couple inches before the end and use a fastener to secure the Dyneema so it holds up the wire.
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I have posted a link to that video weeks ago. I wrote it had the exact info you needed. I confirmed it was the same info as in the Dedekam book except they use 15% instead of 20% because it’s a cat.

There are tools that measure tension by sideways deflection but they only go up to a certain size of wire, while the method of measuring stretch works for every size.

For the wiring strain relief: use some Dyneema chafe sleeve around the wire to hold it like a splice does (Chinese finger hold or what is it called). Pull the wire out the braid a couple inches before the end and use a fastener to secure the Dyneema so it holds up the wire.
I remember that. I also remembered the 15%.

I’m sorry I forgot in between. That must be frustrating.

The problem is we are at post number 496. Lol

I have to also admit that I am currently launching a company and running an existing company at the same time while doing all of this boat work and trying to keep up personal relationships in my life. So, unfortunately I can’t be perfect with remembering each thing from pages back.

Think a really good feature for the forum would be to enable the OP to pin responses that were really important (like the first time your mentioned this). They wouldn’t even have to necessarily be right on the front page. It could just be a link from the front page of the thread. Or maybe a link from the very last page of the thread.

It would be really handy in situations like this. I can’t be the only person who ever forgot something in a 496 post thread.
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Oh wait!!! Love that dyneema Chinese finger trap idea!! I have plenty of dyneema around that would work perfectly!
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Oh wait!!! Love that dyneema Chinese finger trap idea!! I have plenty of dyneema around that would work perfectly!
Exactly. Tape the bottom end to cable so it doesnít shift while not tensioned yet
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Antenna mounting.

all the documents say to use lockwashers on a through bolting situation. Guess they were written for other types of things like power boats.

Locktite instead?
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Is on the mast right? Drill and tap and tef gel.
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Is on the mast right? Drill and tap and tef gel.
fantastic! I didnít think it would stay in. I'm using Lanocote.

what about this installation location also? While Iím at it?
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fantastic! I didnít think it would stay in. I'm using Lanocote.

what about this installation location also? While Iím at it?
EhrmÖ no. Is this the Galaxy Little Giant antenna? It is supposed to be mounted on top of the mast, it doesnít require any additional bracket.

You canít mount alongside the mast. If you can have it sticking up above the mast for bridge clearing reasons, then use a stainless whip instead and hope it doesnít bend permanently while carrying a spare.

If you really canít have it on top of the mast (why not, I have so much on top, plenty space), then put it on top of an upper spreader.
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Gd dmn it. I already drilled and tapped and mounted.



It's a Shakespeare 5014 VHF (ETK22F)

The previous Rigger bought all of that stuff on my account.

There is a metal base and a plastic side mount as pictured.

so what? Just bring the metal base way up and the plastic base as high as it can go?
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That ant needs to be in the clear of significant metal its entire length.
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Gd dmn it. I already drilled and tapped and mounted.

It's a Shakespeare 5014 VHF (ETK22F)

The previous Rigger bought all of that stuff on my account.

There is a metal base and a plastic side mount as pictured.

so what? Just bring the metal base way up and the plastic base as high as it can go?
That antenna doesnít exist according to my GoogleÖ

How long is it? It sounds like this is a motorboat antenna, to be mounted on the fiberglass side of the house or towerÖ
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I think it is an 5104 antenna for motorboats.

You typically need an antenna with a SO-239 connector instead of a piece of cable with PL259 connector.

I have many posts about antenna choice incl. The VHF/AIS or combination antennas. In short: get a VHF whip antenna with angle bracket or go for the fixed threaded base on top of the mast on which a wideband antenna can be attached.

The best antenna: Shakespeare WB6500 with optional female-female ferrule for standard marine 1Ē threaded mount, because it can do everything.
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I think it is an 5104 antenna for motorboats.

You typically need an antenna with a SO-239 connector instead of a piece of cable with PL259 connector.

I have many posts about antenna choice incl. The VHF/AIS or combination antennas. In short: get a VHF whip antenna with angle bracket or go for the fixed threaded base on top of the mast on which a wideband antenna can be attached.

The best antenna: Shakespeare WB6500 with optional female-female ferrule for standard marine 1Ē threaded mount, because it can do everything.
I donít have enough time. This mask is going up and I have a lot of work going on I canít order another antenna right now and go through all of that.

I donít understand why this guy got me a powerboat antenna. That would explain why the instructions donít talk about mounting it the way I am and talk about using bolts on the back

not only did this guy steal $25,000 but heís an idiot? I didnít know that.

are there any other opinions here? Because I really really donít have the time to start over here.

I know I have seen VHFís mounted on the side of masts before.

I donít really want to do it the wrong way, but I donít really have any time

This is beyond frustrating.

I have two days to get this thing done. Maybe three. I guess I can order another freaking antenna
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Re: Chotuís Advanced Standing Rigging Thread (lots of pics)

If the antenna is close to the top of the mast, just get an extension mast to space the antenna up from the mount so it's above the mast. They come in 6 inch, 1 foot, 2 foot, and 4 foot lengths. If you're concerned about the extra load on the mount, add an upper support bracket at the top of the mast to brace the antenna.

There's no technical reason you can't use a "powerboat" antenna on a sailboat or vice versa. It's just a matter of what is commonly used on each (and is typically easy to install).
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I know I have seen VHFís mounted on the side of masts before.


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What you havenít seen is the VSWR and horiz antenna pattern from such installs.

Side mounted vhf installs on towers exist, but usually with a wavelength or so of air space.
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