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09-11-2016, 12:21
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
Here are a few CW articles on the topic, including the one by Bingham. Not sure why the search engine isn't working for you? Though Bing found the articles easily enough by typing in; Cruising World, "Bruce Bingham", & reefing.
reefing | Cruising World
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09-11-2016, 12:45
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
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Originally Posted by Madwand
I was talking about the line at the end of the boom for thst part.
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And again my reply is use the lines for the first reef.
I have three reefs in my main. Three lines would be much too much spaghetti hanging on the sail. So for the third reef I use the lines from the first reef. As you only have one set of reefing lines, just use them again. Not as fast as having another set but it works.
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09-11-2016, 13:18
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
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Originally Posted by Vasco
And again my reply is use the lines for the first reef.
I have three reefs in my main. Three lines would be much too much spaghetti hanging on the sail. So for the third reef I use the lines from the first reef. As you only have one set of reefing lines, just use them again. Not as fast as having another set but it works.
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So when it's time to reef a second time, take my bimini top off so I can get to the end of the boom, untie the knots holding the line, then retie them in the next hole. Seems like a second line would be easier...
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09-11-2016, 13:37
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
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Originally Posted by Vasco
And again my reply is use the lines for the first reef.
I have three reefs in my main. Three lines would be much too much spaghetti hanging on the sail. So for the third reef I use the lines from the first reef. As you only have one set of reefing lines, just use them again. Not as fast as having another set but it works.
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I have three reefing lines permanently set up. I used spectra lines, so weight isn't an issue. I was also advised to use the first reefing line for third reef, but the thought of making that swap in conditions when you actually NEED third reef was not very appealing.
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09-11-2016, 13:53
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
It appears my stack pack bag has a hole for a second reef line and there are 2 cleats on the mast end of the boom. Perhaps there was one there originally, but the second reefing car is missing. ($112!!!) But I see what it needs now...
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09-11-2016, 13:53
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
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Originally Posted by Madwand
It appears my stack pack bag has a hole for a second reef line and there are 2 cleats on the mast end of the boom. Perhaps there was one there originally, but the second reefing car is missing. ($112!!!) But I see what it needs now...
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10-11-2016, 11:53
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
Being in the process of converting a racing boat [one tonner] to a cruising boat, one of the changes is reefing the Main, firstly the track didn't ended about 18" above the gooseneck , so the slides needed to be removed to get the cringle low enough to capture, a real pain for sure, so a track was added, then the problem is the sail bunching up and not being low enough to hook, so a line is used, threaded thru the cringle, the upside of this setup is the cringle can be adjusted up or down, so when the Leech is pulled down, the Luff can be adjusted to get a straight pull [line], which gives the sail a better set, this is all done from the cockpit, via organizers,clutches and self-tailing winches. P.S. i tried a single line set up, but it didn't work very well on this 37 Foot one tonner.
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10-11-2016, 13:41
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
You use a block and tackle with a hook on it. Probably attached to bottom of mast. Called a Cunningham.
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10-11-2016, 13:47
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
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Originally Posted by Madwand
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Mad, the easiest thing of course is to buy a second sliding block for the track. 112$ is a big hit for a single block for sure... you might try at a second hand marine store if there is one in your area. If not, you can find cheek blocks that simply mount onto the boom with screws for considerably less than the sliding ones. Then mount that block on the other side of the boom, away from the track.
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10-11-2016, 21:14
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
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Originally Posted by Madwand
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There's nothing to attach the cringle to.
I suppose you could run a knotted line through the port side and tie it to the cleat on the starboard side.
I was thinking about making a floppy ring in each cringle, maybe just have a line tied to the cleat with a hook or snap shackle on it? Trying to keep it simple.
On the end of the boom, there's a pulley mounted on a track with a line leading to the first cringle back there. Again, what did they do for the second reef?
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That's the goofiest looking gooseneck I've seen.
It looks like a spring loaded roller reefing boom, but the tack can't be connected to the gooseneck that way.
See if you can pull aft on the boom and roll it.
If there is a swivelling butterfly flange on the other end of the boom to connect the topping lift to, that would clinch the roller boom concept.
If so, then the tack connection has to be to rotating boom, not the gooseneck.
(I don't really care for roller reefing booms, but have had them and switched to jiffy reefing.)
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11-11-2016, 17:49
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
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Originally Posted by ramblinrod
That's the goofiest looking gooseneck I've seen.
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It looks just like mine. It's a standard C-30 gooseneck. Yes, it does swivel a bit (i.e. the roll direction) but it's not a roller reefing boom.
Catalina Direct sells a replacement casting:
Some pic I found of a C-30 on the net:
Oh, and I missed Mad's question about the 2nd reef (which has already been well answered) - Since I only have 1 reef point, it's not a problem for me.
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11-11-2016, 18:02
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
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Originally Posted by Madwand
.................But what I asked for, was how did you think the previous owner did any reefing on a boat that's not set up for reefing.
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He took the line with him.
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11-11-2016, 18:05
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
Seems like it. I added a 1/4" line to that loop under the boom to pass through the cringle and tie to the cleat on the other side. Just need to get a second car for the track on the boom for the second reef now.
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12-11-2016, 08:24
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
The search engine doesn't work for me either. But google works well to turn up CF threads.
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13-11-2016, 11:17
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Re: Any idea how the previous owner reefed this?
The previous owner used the roller reefing boom, or didn't reef at all.
How do you want to reef your main?
I suggest slab reefing, with a hook for the tack and a reef line for the clew.
Don't run the lines back to the cockpit too much friction.
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