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28-11-2024, 23:06
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Re: Toilets -- Again
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Originally Posted by Buho
Hello there, my toilet handle for closing the discharge host has broken. Any idea how to fix this.
See pic
Thanks
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Plug the thruhull from the outside.
Remove and replace the seacock.
Remove plug.
Or pull the boat out of the water.
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28-11-2024, 23:45
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#77
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
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Re: Toilets -- Again
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10-12-2024, 08:09
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#78
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Re: Toilets -- Again
Has anyone tried or have experience with the new (2023) Jabsco Quietflush E2 toilet? Considering upgrading from the manual jabsco to an electric...
My interests is driven by our relatively small holding tank and the desire for a less smelly head.
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10-12-2024, 08:33
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#79
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Location: Annapolis
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Re: Toilets -- Again
I removed 2 of them. Loud. More convenient for novices, but will not help your issues.
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10-12-2024, 08:33
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Cruising North Sea and Baltic (Summer)
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
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Re: Toilets -- Again
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Originally Posted by barold
Has anyone tried or have experience with the new (2023) Jabsco Quietflush E2 toilet? Considering upgrading from the manual jabsco to an electric..
My interests is driven by our relatively small holding tank and the desire for a less smelly head.
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No actual experience with that Jabsco, but I don't like the look of it. It looks just like the Raritan Sea Era which is toy-like carp, flimsy, noisy, and short lived. I had one of those which I threw away in disgust after only a few years of unsatisfactory service.
For that money, you could do a real premium fresh water toilet like the Raritan Sea Elegance. There are other similar toilets: Tecma, Planar, etc.
You want this type:
With the larger, more powerful, slower running, heavier duty motor and macerator, with this gear hidden inside the porcelain.
It's totally different from other electric toilet types. Much quieter and much more reliable. One of the best things you can do for your boat.
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10-12-2024, 08:36
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Location: Michigan
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Re: Toilets -- Again
They work. If the seals are installed correctly, they don't leak. I haven't noticed if they use any more water than anyone else. I don't think they do. They do, on occasion, suck down so violently that some "matter' is ejected from the bowl. They are a bit noisy. But the hoses are the main odor culprit.
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10-12-2024, 09:31
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#82
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Cruz
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Re: Toilets -- Again
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Originally Posted by rslifkin
I've had good luck with the Sea Era I put in, but I do wish I'd gone for the separate intake pump. Partly because the integral intake pump is rather loud.
As far as a next step up, the Raritan Marine Elegance is the higher end (and I think more powerful) unit. Not sure if the pumps are any more durable, but I'm thinking your Sea Era self destruction may have been a fluke. No personal experience with the Jabsco electrics for comparison.
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The Great Loop boat had a Sea Elegance. I remember swearing at it for half a day when it died due to someone flushing her hair. It required removal to do any work.
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10-12-2024, 11:34
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#83
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Re: Toilets -- Again
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Originally Posted by donradcliffe
The Great Loop boat had a Sea Elegance. I remember swearing at it for half a day when it died due to someone flushing her hair. It required removal to do any work.
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The minus of this type of toilet is that the mechanism is entirely enclosed in the porcelain, so you do have to take the toilet out in order to service anything.
Good news is everything is so heavy duty you shouldn't have to. Unless someone puts hair, or a tampon, or something down it.
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
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10-12-2024, 12:48
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Re: Toilets -- Again
Seems to me that your toilet use requirements should be posted in the head, and that the skipper should inform all crew how to use it properly. I never heard of people flushing hair down a toilet till reading this thread. It surely isn't what I was taught.
It is unreasonable to expect land livers to know about how to use marine toilets, it's really simple. If it is the result of consumption of food, or beverage it can go in--nothing else.
You also have to explain that the water supply is limited by the tankage aboard. We found it helped to have guests participate in the initial watering up.
Ann
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10-12-2024, 14:52
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Re: Toilets -- Again
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Originally Posted by JPA Cate
Seems to me that your toilet use requirements should be posted in the head, and that the skipper should inform all crew how to use it properly. I never heard of people flushing hair down a toilet till reading this thread. It surely isn't what I was taught.
It is unreasonable to expect land livers to know about how to use marine toilets, it's really simple. If it is the result of consumption of food, or beverage it can go in--nothing else.
You also have to explain that the water supply is limited by the tankage aboard. We found it helped to have guests participate in the initial watering up.
Ann
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Indeed, that is good practice.
Touch wood, I've never had a problem on any of my boats, in many decades of having lots of different people on board, of anyone flushing something inappropriate. I've heard of it plenty times on other people's boats, however.
Water consumption is another matter, and for another thread I guess.
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"You sea! I resign myself to you also . . . . I guess what you mean,
I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
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